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kirkvw72 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 272 Location: Hoffman Estates, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Lower shock bolt pitch and length? |
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What is the length and pitch of the lower shock bolt. I just spent 1.5 hours to no avail trying all methods to get it out. All new shocks, brakes, lines, Weitec springs....last wheel of course, and I can't get the bolt out.
Mine is stuck, and will be destroyed by the time it comes out. _________________ 2015 VW GTi Autobahn
2000 Mercedes Benz E430
1992 Miata, automatic converted to a 5-speed
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
1987 Porsche 944 (951) Turbo
1987 Vanagon GL, Rocky Jennings Heads, RMW Exhaust, ASL 5-speed, AMG Wheels
1981 Porsche 924 (931) Turbo
1972 Beetle (standard) |
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pioneer1 Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2008 Posts: 2069 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Did you put a jack under the area to relieve the downward pressure on the bolt? Are in the front or back shock-I've never had a problem like you are experiencing. _________________ "Always waiting for tomorrow ruined everything"
'85 Porsche 911 Targa
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kirkvw72 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 272 Location: Hoffman Estates, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Yep, jack is relieving pressure. Bolt is seized to the shock collar. Soaked in oil. Tried 2lb sledge. Don't have a torch. At Menards right now to buy a saws all. _________________ 2015 VW GTi Autobahn
2000 Mercedes Benz E430
1992 Miata, automatic converted to a 5-speed
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
1987 Porsche 944 (951) Turbo
1987 Vanagon GL, Rocky Jennings Heads, RMW Exhaust, ASL 5-speed, AMG Wheels
1981 Porsche 924 (931) Turbo
1972 Beetle (standard) |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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12x1.5mm- 65mm long same as the upper. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5392 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure you are probably trying to finish this job today, but I have both front and rear high quality shock bolts in stock if you need them. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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kirkvw72 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 272 Location: Hoffman Estates, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Chris - Thanks for the reply! I finished the project up!
Menards had the proper bolt.
14mm x 120mm (1.5 pitch), 10.9 grade bolt.
I ended up using a combination of a sawzall with a metal blade and my pneumatic 3" cut-off tool to make relief cuts in the shock collar. Once I had enough relief cuts, the PB blaster was used to try to loosen things up. From there, I took the largest vice-grips I had, plus my impact wrench to loosen the bolt from the collar. That only worked for one side of the shock collar, to my amazement. The bolt did start to move after seemingly hundreds of whacks with a 2.5 lb sledge. It only moved enough to clear one side of the lower control arm. From there, since I was stuck - again - I decided to use the cut-off tool to cut away the metal "eye-hole" to free the bolt. I also cut the head of the bolt off. After almost 4 hours, I got it all free. You should see what the old shock looks like now! I'll try to post a picture later.
Took only 45min to replace the spring, the upper control arm, put on the new shock, and mount the tire. _________________ 2015 VW GTi Autobahn
2000 Mercedes Benz E430
1992 Miata, automatic converted to a 5-speed
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
1987 Porsche 944 (951) Turbo
1987 Vanagon GL, Rocky Jennings Heads, RMW Exhaust, ASL 5-speed, AMG Wheels
1981 Porsche 924 (931) Turbo
1972 Beetle (standard) |
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presslab Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2008 Posts: 1730 Location: Sonoma County
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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It's a good idea to put anti-sieze grease along the length of the bolt, so that it will be less likely to rust to the shock collar. I do this on all these suspension bushings. _________________ 1986 Vanagon Westfalia EJ25
1988 Subaru GL-10 EJ20G --- 2000 Honda XR650L
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kirkvw72 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 272 Location: Hoffman Estates, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the idea. I actually had the forethought to do that on this new bolt. I'll be taking the other ones out to put antiseize on them too. _________________ 2015 VW GTi Autobahn
2000 Mercedes Benz E430
1992 Miata, automatic converted to a 5-speed
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
1987 Porsche 944 (951) Turbo
1987 Vanagon GL, Rocky Jennings Heads, RMW Exhaust, ASL 5-speed, AMG Wheels
1981 Porsche 924 (931) Turbo
1972 Beetle (standard) |
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therastavan Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2020 Posts: 81 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Lower shock bolt pitch and length? |
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Regarding the tapered ring that the front lower shock bolt goes into, how is that tapered ring installed? Do you just hammer it into the control arm hole first? |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Lower shock bolt pitch and length? |
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therastavan wrote: |
Regarding the tapered ring that the front lower shock bolt goes into, how is that tapered ring installed? Do you just hammer it into the control arm hole first? |
Yes, just tap it in gently, when you tighten the bolt it will seat where it's happy. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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therastavan Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2020 Posts: 81 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Lower shock bolt pitch and length? |
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ALIKA T3 wrote: |
therastavan wrote: |
Regarding the tapered ring that the front lower shock bolt goes into, how is that tapered ring installed? Do you just hammer it into the control arm hole first? |
Yes, just tap it in gently, when you tighten the bolt it will seat where it's happy. |
Do when I tap it in do I tap it in until it is flush with the control arm and then I insert the bolt? |
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