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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: Route from Buffalo to Granny Grose's |
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Looking at several atlas' and current road maps I have plotted the following route. I will most likely stay overnight some place in North PA Hwy 449 to 6 East. I don't really want to go East too much to have to go back West, one of my quirks in life! Looked at altitudes and most around 2500 ft.
Buffalo >>20 East to 19 South which becomes 449 in PA to 6 East to 287 South to 220 West to 44 South to 15 South to 45 West.
OR should I take 6 East all the way to 15 South?.
15 South Looks like a bigger highway but as long as it's paved and has some shoulders I don't mind. Will not be travelling in dusk or dark.
I'm looking for someone who has driven these roads and their opinion. I do tend to get bored with too much big highway. I will leave Toronto area early Wednesday and stop someplace just to sleep and then leave early Thursday morning for Granny Grose's
Transport trucks galore? Lots of towns? I only fear fog and ice, rain doesn't bother me and I'd sure hope that I didn't get stuck behind transports going up hill .
Got any advice to give me? Experienced driver all terrain, tendency to speed
Got lots of fuses, bulbs, a siphon pump. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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Timwhy Samba Member
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Gauche1968 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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U.S. 219 South out of Buffalo is a nice drive through the Twin Tiers and into central PA. If you want to avoid interstate, you could go east on 322, 22 or further south Rte. 30. There are a lot big mountains that way however. _________________ 1984 Vanagon GL
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JPrato Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of 15 in PA is now a interstate like highway. (divided, 65 mph speed limit) I think most of the old road is still there but it's not marked as 15 anymore. It could be easy to navigate but I don't have any first hand knowledge. _________________ Joe
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Tim I understand what you are saying and I have a Magellan but I'm not real comfortable to count on it alone. I'm looking for personal experience re roads, trucks. I just couldn't go through another trip like last years further west in PA. I'm not anxious at all about NY, just asking personal opinions. Don't want to go out of my way unless I have to. It's a long trip for me, followed by another one directly up to Western Michigan.
Perhaps I shouldn't have asked. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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Salem7 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I used to live in the area. In Salladasburg, PA off Rt 287. Your route sounds good. I would rather do 287 than Rt. 15. Maybe stay on the north and east side of the Susquehanna on old route 147 and 220 through Montoursville and Muncy down to Rt. 45. That would be mored direct and flatter than
Rt. 44.
Be prepared for a shock when you see what fracking for natural gas has done to North Central PA. There will be a lot of water tankers on the roads there. _________________ 1982 Westfalia 1.6NA diesel. Converted to Turbo 1.6 and sold.
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Off topic, but what's in W. Michigan for you? I grew up in Holland, played in Saugatuck, wife grew up in Berrien Springs, etc, etc.
DougM _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Buses By The Beach, it's a VW Gathering to raise money for Burn Victims. I'm hoping I'm finally going to get there. It's in West Olive, Michigan, between Holland and Grandhaven at Camp Blodget.
Info appreciated, will look it up on map later. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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Sam Bateman Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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There are some fully-grown hills in that part of PA.
Hopefully not as big as the one I encountered cutting over to Jersey Shore from Rt 15 a while back. That damn thing went on forever!
If I come to Grannys, I'm planning on coming to Carlisle and then going cross-country on backroads.
Sure is a pretty part of the State.
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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they call that north central part of Pennsylvania God's Country.. truely beautiful and fairly remote at times.. Ohh and watch out for the wild ELK, they're a bit bigger than deer. wouldn't want to hit one. _________________
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Sam Bateman Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:08 am Post subject: |
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I had a close encounter with a moose in Nova Scotia while on my moto some years back. By close I mean he crossed the road 100 yards in front of us at a rapid pace. That was close enough for me!
I slowed right down and for the next 100 miles I studied every patch of scrubbery on the side of the road to see if it was moving!
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bjrogers86auto Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2009 Posts: 1375 Location: Halifax, N.S.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: trip |
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Studying the sides of the road will drive you batty in a hurry! Moose are only an issue in Cape Breton for the most part. Northern New Brunswick on the other hand...
We had a young moose come out on the road in front of us in C.B. We were on a back road to a waterfall. It trotted up the road in front of our car and we followed along. It was pretty cool. Prefer a moose over a bear.
Good luck on the road trip Daizee! Sounds like it will be a great trip! I found all of that area very nice to drive in. Especially the less busy roads.
As you say...without pictures it never happened!
Brian _________________ 86 Vanagon GL Westfalia 2.1
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the input people. I will take pics but hard to do when driving and as I travel only with a blind 10 lber, she's no help! I really don't want to do InterStates. I have a few options now. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ooh. Bring mosquito repellant. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I hear ya, I've plotted our NY to Maine trip for July with very nearly zero interstates.. just for the very last home stretch after 10days on the open (back) roads.
funny thing is I've been on nearly all of them already at one time or another. love the blue line highways.
no matter which, you'll have a great time.. it's beautiful country down there. and there's one of a very few "Dark Sky areas" in central PA.
http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/stateparks/findapark/cherrysprings/cherrysprings-darkskies/index.htm
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Thanks for all the input people. I will take pics but hard to do when driving and as I travel only with a blind 10 lber, she's no help! I really don't want to do InterStates. I have a few options now. |
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vwgrl1999 Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2008 Posts: 153 Location: Central PA
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Route from Buffalo to Granny Grose's |
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DAIZEE wrote: |
Looking at several atlas' and current road maps I have plotted the following route. I will most likely stay overnight some place in North PA Hwy 449 to 6 East. I don't really want to go East too much to have to go back West, one of my quirks in life! Looked at altitudes and most around 2500 ft.
Buffalo >>20 East to 19 South which becomes 449 in PA to 6 East to 287 South to 220 West to 44 South to 15 South to 45 West.
OR should I take 6 East all the way to 15 South?.
15 South Looks like a bigger highway but as long as it's paved and has some shoulders I don't mind. Will not be travelling in dusk or dark.
I'm looking for someone who has driven these roads and their opinion. I do tend to get bored with too much big highway. I will leave Toronto area early Wednesday and stop someplace just to sleep and then leave early Thursday morning for Granny Grose's
Transport trucks galore? Lots of towns? I only fear fog and ice, rain doesn't bother me and I'd sure hope that I didn't get stuck behind transports going up hill .
Got any advice to give me? Experienced driver all terrain, tendency to speed
Got lots of fuses, bulbs, a siphon pump. |
Rt. 6 in PA is a nice ride, make sure that you stop in Wellsboro to see Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon, it is absolutely beautiful! If you take 287 (which I'm not too familiar with), you will be close to me and I can offer a yard for you to camp in over night. 220 is a major 4 lane, divided hiway for most of it's length....and boring to boot. 15, while a divided hiway, is at least scenic for the most part. There will be lots of large trucks of all varieties on the roads in PA, as the fracking gasholes chew up our natural beauty.
Safe travels! _________________ Current VW's:
1987 Vanagon GL
1999 New Beetle
Past VW's:
1980 Westy
1971 Beetle
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DAIZEE Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Thank you VWgirl. I see Wellsboro is on my road, so may be that's where I will stop in mid late afternoon for an overnighter. I'm only going to be on 220 for a jig and then jog onto 44. I'll start out on 287 and if I get bored, then I'll go across 9 SE to 15. I enjoyed 15 on my way home last year.
If I was leaving earlier, I'd arrange a stop but I'm going to be pushing thru Wed & Thurs. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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DubNuts Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Dazeee
I was just up in that area about 2 weeks and got hungup in a late Spring snowfall of about 10" in Warren Pa.. Doubt that anyone will hit snow now but as many agree it is some beautiful country..
I would recomend taking Route 89 out of NY head for Route 15 into Pa, that will get you in the general area, drive at your pace and don't fret it.. There is some East Coast Mountians unfortunatly your be cutting acrross them but nothing that the Dasie Mobile can't handle. Its about a 5 hour roll for you, perhaps you can hookup with some Canidians headed south to this event as many usually attend. Ohooo bring Beer.
I was going to attend with some of the Folk from Bus Depot but family and wedding attendance is manatory. Oh well.
Good Luck.. did I remember to tell you to bring beer?
This is where your headed. Perhaps you can print out a Mapquest in the event that you don't have GPS or lose signal in the woods.
http://www.sunsationalfamilycampground.com/
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DAIZEE Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Are you saying Canadian Beer or American Beer.? I wasn't going to buy any Cdn Beer, was going the American suds instead. I'm a lager drinker on occassion. FAIR TRADE right, 1 Cdn Suds given, 2 American Suds received _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
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When i brought can beer across they used to tax it at 100% if u did not report it. And about half that if declared. This was Detroit crossing _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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