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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: Transaxle is now out (pics). Now What ? |
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Its out (1967), but I need to save the axle tubes and axle. How would you clean off this crud to remove the axle tube ? I have a new , rebuilt tranny, but I need these tubes, axle and spider gears. Are these toast ?
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Are you really asking for instructions on how to degrease something? Get some Purple Power, a stiff brush and start working at it. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
borninabus wrote: |
a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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No. I am asking what you would do to clean what you see as I need to save them. I have never used "purple power", nor have I ever removed a transaxle before. Rebuilt a motor, yes, but not this. I used high pressure water and air to clean my case when I rebuilt that. This is a whole different animal, as it seems caked is some foreign material, and I don't know if this cake is beyond what one might consider toasted. |
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: tranny clean |
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Tdog,Get that piece of Shi* OFF the lawn...
Boy does this bring back memories of yester-year!
Have a fun week-end. _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I hid this behind the picnic table. Maybe the wife won't see it ? |
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's 50 years worth of grease and dirt. Purple Power is available at any Wal Mart and a stiff nylon or wire brush would make short work of it. It's just dirt, nothing to be worried about. So to answer my question then, yes, you're asking how to degrease this transmission. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
borninabus wrote: |
a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, vdub. Looks like a long dirty Saturday tomorrow. Thank you |
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Screw the purple power... that stuffs got weak...
Go to the dollar store and buy some oven cleaner and a pair of rubber gloves! _________________ ✠Miklo✠
'55 Type1 "Ozma"
'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
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As I remember it, lowriding was not one of the criteria that Adolf gave to Dr. Porsche... |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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VDubTech Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I've always had great luck with it. You don't need caustic chemicals to remove grease and road dirt.
OP: Spray on the degreaser of your choice and let it sit for a few minutes then hit it with the wire brush. That shit will fall off of there. Rinse it off with the hose and you're good to go. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
borninabus wrote: |
a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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VeeDubDoug wrote: |
Screw the purple power... that stuffs got weak...
Go to the dollar store and buy some oven cleaner and a pair of rubber gloves! |
I do have some easy off grill cleaner. That might do it. I used it on my pistons and it did well on the carbon |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Notice the hole in the axle tube boot. I'm worried that might have that crap in there and ruined the spider gear and fulcrum plates. |
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Seb67 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I recently did this for my '64 and it looked very similar to yours. On my car it was not 50 years of just dirt but also 50 years of slow tranny and engine oil leaking. The wet oil absorbs road dirt and becomes like a thick tar over many years.
The best method I found was to first use a soft scraper of some kind like a plastic or wood putty knife to get rid of the big stuff.
After all the heavy duty chunky stuff was off, then start with the chemicals/degreasers of your choice. I tried all the usual stuff, including simple green etc but I found that a brass brush and a large tub of mineral spirits did the best job. It makes a big mess and remember that the tar like stuff contains old oil so don't do this somewhere that you don't want to be a big mess - like on your driveway or next to your vegetable garden(!)
The fastest way would be this:
Plus This:
_________________ 1964 Type 1 |
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Seb67 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Tdog71 wrote: |
Notice the hole in the axle tube boot. I'm worried that might have that crap in there and ruined the spider gear and fulcrum plates. |
If you are worried about getting anything in there just get an old plastic bag or something and wrap it around the old boots and tape or tie it off somehow on both sides of the boot while you are using chemicals. _________________ 1964 Type 1 |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Good stuff, seb. Ty |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Seb67 wrote: |
Tdog71 wrote: |
Notice the hole in the axle tube boot. I'm worried that might have that crap in there and ruined the spider gear and fulcrum plates. |
If you are worried about getting anything in there just get an old plastic bag or something and wrap it around the old boots and tape or tie it off somehow on both sides of the boot while you are using chemicals. |
Good point, but I was worried that whatever is under there now might be toast. It seems like split boots is quite common, so maybe I am just getting ahead of myself with worry |
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disneymike Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Elk Grove, Ca
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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If you are just using the axles, tubes, and spider gears why not just remove them and forget trying to clean the whole trans? _________________ 1958 beetle |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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disneymike wrote: |
If you are just using the axles, tubes, and spider gears why not just remove them and forget trying to clean the whole trans? |
That's the plan. Anyone want what's left ? You pay ship, you get it. |
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Dougy Dee Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2004 Posts: 1668 Location: Niagara Region, CANADA
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:30 am Post subject: |
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No need to get your knockers all wadded up cleaning the beast.
Scrape the shit off around the 6 bolts and remove them.
Pull the axle tubes. A Big 2 jaw puller (6") willl help.
Get big circlip pliers to remove the circlips and pop out the axles and side gears.
No worries about crap getting inside.
If you need the spider gears or diff assembly stuff a rag in the side cover holes.
Remove the 8 bolts around the side cover on the clutch lever side. Drift this off first and the whole diff assembly may pop out without needing to remove the starter side cover as well.
You shouldnt have a whole lot of mess to clean up and your lawn wont be damaged by harsh chemicals,,, |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks dougdee. Anyone remember the size of those 6 nuts holding the nose cone of the axle tube on ? I am going to run to the hardware store and grab 12 stainless steel ones to replace them |
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