Horn wiring

[Sharp64]

I'm using a Grant steering wheel and adapter. My concern is I read something about the clamp on style turn signal levers potentially having issues as they could cause the horn to constant ground? Perhaps using the outer column, but placing a rubber spacer in between the turn signal clamp and the column would eliminate the issue? Ill have to experiment. Thank you for the replies.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[Bluggy]

[EVfun]

[Sharp64]

Not sure if it’s the exact model, but looks dangerously close to what I have and honestly the chrome on the one I have is peeling so this may be what I end up ordering :

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Heavy-Duty...dzEALw_wcB

Technically the steering column is isolated if I’m not mistaken as I don’t see a grounding point. So it should be able to be used as a conduit to the steering wheel and then the connection using a wire down the shaft over the steering coupler to the steering box side of the coupler.

Looks like Speedway has the relay, so another order.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[Dale M.]

[EVfun]

[jspbtown]

[Dale M.]

[Bluggy]

Here are some pics of mine and what the PO did. I bought it and started doing some work on it right away, I cant put it on the road the way it is, has to be stripped right down and done over.

Here you will see where the wire to the horn connects and fed through the steering column.

Here is the insulation block the PO made, I will re-do all of this.

Pic of horn, I forgot to take one of the horn specifically.

As I said, I have never had this Buggy on the road. I am stripping the roll cage off, tub off, to work on pan, suspension, some maintenance, sand, paint and do some upgrade mods to it.

[Sharp64]

Bear with me here as I’m going to try and wire the horn tomorrow. I’m thinking the middle diagram will work best but trying to wrap my head around this.

My question is does #30 terminal on the switch and the one coming off the horn have to share a commons ground as in this diagram or can they have individual/separate wires grounding them? I.e can the horn button use a wire down the shaft grounding over the rag joint and the #30 terminal have its own ground to the chassis? Otherwise I’m trying to figure out how to go from the HB over the rag joint and then to the #30 terminal.

Any help is appreciated.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[Dale M.]

[Sharp64]

I’m going to run a wire from 85 to the outer column which is an easy wire. I was just concerned if there was a specific reason to have to tie the other two together.

Like this:

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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[BL3Manx]

You simply run an unswitched wire from the fuse block to the positive terminal on the horn

Looks like you're adding in a unnecessary relay to the 66 and earlier horn circuit. You don't need to use the relay at all if you are going to run an insulated ground wire through the steering shaft to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed it grounds the outer column and the wire from the outer column grounds the horn.

[Sharp64]

[BL3Manx]

It will work fine for quite a while without a relay but he's right, reducing the amps going through the horn button is not a bad idea. Its actually the same with the VW starter switch, but even more so.

It does look like you're following the middle diagram, that should work

What do you mean specifically "tie the other two together"?

What's changing when you add the relay in that circuit is that the horn is getting its ground from a larger contact in relay, not from the smaller contact in the horn button. The heavier amperage goes through the relay's heavier contact. The horn button is just used to activate the relay which requires less amps

The thing is, how often do you use the horn. If hardly ever, just the horn button without a relay will work fine for years. When it starts to be a problem, clean the contact and add a relay if you want

[Sharp64]

[BL3Manx]

A ground is a ground. The wire running up through the column doesn't have to be off the same wire running to the 30 terminal.

Again, if you're not gonna be using the horn frequently(New York City? Cairo?) the horn button will last years

[Sharp64]

Well after spending a fair amount of time running new wires and such my column and shaft must be grounding out on each other. Guess I'm relegated to using a damn push button.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[Dale M.]

[MrGoodtunes]