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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Sand rail off of the floor pan? Reply with quote

I have seen plenty of sand rails but my dad had one that he said was built off of the floor pan, unlike the ones you see today. I was wondering if any one has done this or has a picture of one like this. I have been thinking about making one off the floor pan what are the pros and cons of this and not a kit like the Warrior? Thank you
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one that originated in my home town, it has been in national publications. It retained the center tunnel and rear set, not really
any pan left, but you get the idea.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks that helpful but I was looking for something that has the original wheel base and a roll cage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is one of the better ones i have seen:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=457699&start=0

here is another. really basic but it grows on you:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=461879&start=0

cons: weight, limited on wheel base, and the tubes that make up the floor in a rail (unless you use heavier plate(more weight)) help the strength of the cage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks that was very helpful but why do people rarely do this, it seems easier than making a full on sand rail.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AustinBaja12342 wrote:
thanks that was very helpful but why do people rarely do this, it seems easier than making a full on sand rail.


it is old school. with a sand rail, all the works (clutch and throttle cable, shift bushings that are in the tunnel) are easy to get to. you can get that more laid back seating position. you can make the car as long or short as you want. just a neater package. less work unless you have a tubing bender and welder to slap a VW beam and transaxle on a rail and you are almost done.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might find this interesting:

http://www.powersliderides.com/index.htm

probably not available by mail order though....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is the actual sand rail better or is it just because it nicer looking and is easier to work on? And what are some pros/cons
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AustinBaja12342 wrote:
so is the actual sand rail better or is it just because it nicer looking and is easier to work on? And what are some pros/cons


Rolling over would be a HUGE concern. I grew up buggying in the early 70's and Ive seen a few similar to the above.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought it would be fine with the roll cage or are you just talking about the first one?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does any one have some other pictures or videos of them?
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