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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: Which side do you carry a kayak/canoe on a full Westy? |
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I would think passenger side is better just because a full Westy is driver side heavy. I also have a spare tire rack mounted on the driver side on the back.
Is there a good reason not to mount a kayak on the passenger side?
I would probably use the kayak only once or twice a month
The kayak is about 60 lbs and 13ft long. Depending on which side the kayak goes on I will permanently mount my 130watt solar on the other side.
Thanks _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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greenbus pilot Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1285 Location: Wisconsin: Rustbelt, USA baby!!
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:21 am Post subject: |
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I mount my canoe on the "top side". Works quite well....and weighs much more than 60 pounds. _________________ Sent from a white van down the street. |
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hans j Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2714 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I'm planning on the passenger side roof with mine. _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6243 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I have a cargo box on the passenger side so mine's on the drivers side. I don't think it really matters though.
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3115 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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I put my canoe (80 lbs) on the passenger side to help even out my "Westy Lean" a bit but don't know if it really makes a difference.
PDX, do you have some sort of cradle to hold you canoe right-side-up when you transport it? I would worry that doing it that way would be putting it in danger of "oil canning / tacoing" or filling up with rain during a storm. I always store/transport my canoe gunwales down. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6243 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I use the yakima rollers in the rear and the saddles in the front. Holds the canoe just fine. It makes it really easy to load by myself from the rear. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:25 am Post subject: boat on top |
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When I had my westy top on - i.e. pre hightop days - I had a Gary Lee safari basket, front bar and poat loading bar. The really nice thing about the Gary Lee racks is that they transfer all of the weight right down to the gutter - the top itself bears none of the weight. Several times I had aluminum boats up to 15' on the racks. The boat loading bar made loading and unloading quite easy. Since the rack and front bar were both full width, a canoe or kayak could easily be to one side or the other or centred as appropriate. http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gary2a/vw.htm _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks
I was going to ask PDX how you load your canoe but you already answered replying to SCM
@SCM How do you load your 80lbs canoe upside down? Do you do it alone?
I have never lifted a kayak before and I believe it won't be easy to load a kayak on top of a westy alone.
I have loaded/unloaded a porta-bote a few times alone and I pulled my muscle on my calf once and it lasted long time... _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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@SCM How do you load your 80lbs canoe upside down? Do you do it alone?
I have never lifted a kayak before and I believe it won't be easy to load a kayak on top of a westy alone. |
I've got a Yakima rack for my Jetta and bought the boat loader attachment for it (back when I was using a hard-shell sit-on-top kayak): http://yakima.com/shop/water/lift-assist/boatloader . Works great! Pull the bar out, lift the front-end of the boat onto the bar, then lift the back of it up and slide the boat over/onto the rack (you can flip the boat using it as well). Don't how well it'd work with a Westy, given its height, but Yakima has other options: http://yakima.com/shop/water/lift-assist . I think Thule has the same type of products for their racks. _________________ ~Kamz
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bjrogers86auto Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2009 Posts: 1375 Location: Halifax, N.S.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: kayaks |
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Two kayaks,total weight about 115 lbs. Travelled about 200kms. I didn't know they were on the roof.
As far as the Yakima boat loader goes...you can get a piece of 1/2 aluminum pipe for about 6 dollars. It will slide inside your bar. You just need to devise something for the end to grab and pull out. I'm on it!
Brian _________________ 86 Vanagon GL Westfalia 2.1
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3115 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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targis58 wrote: |
@SCM How do you load your 80lbs canoe upside down? Do you do it alone?
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Yep. Yakima makes a telescoping rod that inserts into the front cross-bar. That rod slides out about 3 feet from the side of the van when it's time to load up. I just sit the bow of the boat on the rod and the stern on the ground. Then I walk around to the back, lift up the stern and sit it up onto the rear cross bar. then I push the whole boat sideways and walk each end up over the little "L" shaped gunwale brackets on my rack. It sounds more complicated than it is.
With this set-up loading a boat onto the Westy is actually MUCH easier than loading onto my Pathfinder or Jetta which just have cross bars and no other provisions for the boat. I store my boat suspended from the rafters in my garage so it's already up in the air and easy for me to get under the carrying thwart when it's time to put it on the vehicles. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, SCM
I think that is the cheapest way to load a kayak on a westy alone.
I wish Thule had a telescoping rod like Yakima. I am gonna look around what I can use to insert into a Thule bar. _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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JED THE SPREAD Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2009 Posts: 626 Location: South London UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I dress to the left,
Though to be fair my Kayak doesn't weigh much. By the time the roof angle tapers in it is quite a bit more central and I have driven all over the place, got to be over 12 counties on and off road with it on the roof with no worries so far.
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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targis58 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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They DO have it. Thanks for the link. I did not see that when I was searching.... _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3115 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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It also makes for a great place to hang a solar shower! _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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