Official Type 34 thread

[ALLWAGONS]

[Kharon8]

[KTPhil]

Headlight "flash to pass" relay?

It was an accessory added to some early models.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/techbulletins/e10.php

A headlamp flasher was standard on non-USA models:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639357

[Bobnotch]

[Kharon8]

[Kharon8]

[Kharon8]

Some progress and pics this time.

Connected a small motorbike battery with 5A fuse to fuse box so I could test my connections and only managed to blow 2 fuses, that's good.

One as I tested starter solenoid and forgot that 5A isn't even near, so *PUF* said the fuse. Oops. I've a vague idea it nominally pulls 6A but couldn't find actual number with cursory search.

The second one blew when I switched parking lights on: The wire I had connected as going to rear parking lights, wasn't parking lights as it was grounded from somewhere and fuse blew. (Guess it's possibly charging light wire as there's two light blue wires (both incorrect colour) in the bundle) Anyway, disconnected it from fuse box, replaces the fuses (I've a pile of them) and front parking lights are now getting electricity. Nice.

Also (emergency) blinker is working, the bulb in the dash blinks and all four corners are getting voltage. Real progress as wiring is a mix of '65 wiring and for emergency blinker piece from 68 to 70 wiring (inherited from PO) and it wasn't really known if we can get it working.

Anyway, it works now. Nice. The newer blinker wiring has a simple Y-joint from switch to rear/front blinker so adding a side blinker to that is trivial.

This car originally had side parking lights you could turn on by turning the blinker to that side on and turning the power off: Meant as a warning light when car is parked on side of the road in the dark. I hope we don't need that and use it as a side blinker (option type 3 had here in Finland, instead of parking lights).

Horn & foglight relays found their place in trunk and wiring fitted to that place it was made for it. No grounding point found, so we used one bolt as a grounding point.

http://kharon.suomiforum.com/www/ghia3/P1051392.JPG

The mess under the dash is getting quite large, I hope we can lift that pile so high it's not visible too much, but we couldn't find any shelf or something like that would hold the wires. Interesting.

Anyway, the wires leaving fuse box to down will be visible, there's not much to be done to them.

http://kharon.suomiforum.com/www/ghia3/P1051391.JPG

Karmann could have installed fuse box to trunk wall, under the dash so that fuses are in trunk and all the wiring mess high under the dash, but for some reason they decided to do it this way.

Assemble whole mess on desk and then lift as one pile into car, possibly?

Don't really work with old wires, I tried to do that and half of the connectors disconnected when wires were bent a bit, too stiff. Might work with new wires, but we were too lazy to replace all wires and didn't have most of the colours anyway, so it's better to leave them as they are.

Fuse box now has 3 fuses and main lights are next, that's 4 fuses more.

What is interesting is that fog lights don't have any fuses in fuse box, instead they have inline fuse and a branch from main feed, same way cigarette lighter has.

I managed to find original style inline fuse holders from local parts store so I bought a handful of them, very handy items. Staggering 1.2e/piece.
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Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
FVWA.fi support group.

[Bobnotch]

Yeah, you'll probably have to roll the wire up and behind the fuse box, and use some zip ties to hold it in place.
It's looking good though. Nice work.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[Kharon8]

Hello Bob!

Yup. We'll see what we can invent.

Some progress with electrics, I connected main lights and fog lights and flasher with emergency so only parts missing now are fuel gauge with warning lights and everything in steering column switch group: Flashers, ignition lock and horn.

And interesting wire loop going to and from one 8A fuse (right from the high beam fuses, fuse #7). 'Turn indicator switch', says the description. Just because the flashers are fed directly from the steering column switch and they don't have any fuses after the switch?

Anyway, interesting construction.

We made new cardboards (or what is the actual name for the material in side panels?) from door and rear side panels and attached old vinyl to new board, looks like new. Hat shelf needed also new cardboard and the vinyl had so much UV damage/age we try to find original looking new piece of vinyl from somewhere instead of using the old one.

Added some light sound proofing underneath the rear seat and firewall. We'll see if helps.

Old roof vinyl was quite yellow with age and had some holes, so we managed to find similar off white perforated vinyl (not hard, AFAIK same as Beetle uses) and can use old one as a template, shouldn't be a problem as we outsourced that to interior specialist.

Also we found a company which does "silver coating" (probably not actually silver) but we'll give them a try as it's only 300 yards from our garage (knew them as a painters earlier, this was news) and headlight reflector had a large rust spot, we can't use it as it is. The samples we saw were quite impressive. Not as good as vaporized aluminium (what it originally is) but better than rust spots.

Needs of course mirror polish underneath and that's something we can do ourselves, probably 90% of the work.
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Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
FVWA.fi support group.

[Mike Fisher]

Those are big corner windows in your bus!
The Brazilian 15 window buses have smaller corner windows.
2 different size side windows too!
What's the 'story' on that bus?

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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[notchboy]

[Kharon8]

[Kharon8]

Some progress on T34 too, rims sandblasted and painted (black L41, AFAIK the original colour) and new tyres arrived.

Then we remembered that old tyres had tubes and of course new tyres were tubeless, which left a valve hole to the rim.

No problem, other than the tubeless rim has smaller hole and standard valve isn't working, tube type rim has larger hole. Oops.

A special version of valve (larger diameter for valve base) does the job, we've done this before and no problems, but we had none in shelf so had to order few sets.

Once those arrive we finally get a rolling car.

Also did some seal inventory and the seal and aluminium trim underneath/over side quarter window are quite bad, if someone has good examples for sale I'm interested.

The seal between aluminium trim and chassis we got as new, that wasn't hard, but the seal between that trim and glass isn't good.

Windshield/back window seals we got as new, those seem to fit well, no problem, engine bay seals were usable as they were, no worries.

Trunk seal is, at least for now, lost: We had one and it's somewhere(tm). But if I recall correctly the type 14 seal has same profile so we can always make a new one. Most of the seals around lights we got as new, that wasn't hard. I think only ones missing are the register plate light seals.

Got also new seals around vent window but some of the side window(s) seals are too bad for re-use, I'll take pics once I get to there.

Some door seals are also missing, I think those from bottom to the rear of the door. Those to the front of the door I got, also some between window and door, but there's so many I'm not sure I've all of them.

I've soaked all old seals (3 rounds, overnight drying for each ) in "Gummipflege" or "Rubber preserving product" as the spray can says (by BMW, no idea what it is except some kind of oily stuff) and it does help a lot: Dry and hard seal feels like soft rubber again. Also colour changes from dark grey to almost black. Nice but ~30 euros per can, it better be good.

No idea how long that will last but at least for now it works.

This car has been in Germany all of its earlier life, so UV/heat damage to seals is minor compared to our fellows in US/Australia.

Of course both almost zero here in North. On the other hand Brazil-made seals and rubber parts are often really dead after one winter ... they seem to handle -25C/-10F very poorly. (And many, like me, have their summer cars in cold but dry storage in winter.)
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Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
FVWA.fi support group.

[Bobnotch]

You might want to look thru KGPR (Karmann Ghia Parts and restorations for some of the window seals and hinge blocks for the rear pop outs. ISP might also be worth having a look thru as well. I'd probably see about contacting Simon Kelley about seals as well, since he's UK based.

If I remember right, I used t-14 seals in quite a few places, but also used ISP trunk (both) seals when doing mine. When it came time to do the upper door (glass) seals, I ended up using 58 t-14 door seals, as those I got from Simon were for the later cars, and didn't work.
I worked off a list that someone made in the past, and it worked out well, except when it came to the upper door glass. That I had to work out on my own, as nobody had gotten that far along on doing their own cars.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[58758]

How did you complete the upper door glass?

[Bobnotch]

[58758]

Ah, gotcha, thanks.

[Bobnotch]

[Kharon8]

[Bobnotch]