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Kharon8 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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bullethead wrote: |
Thank the air-cooled gods this gentleman has unobtainium for sale. |
... for almost unobtainium price too.
But can't complain too much, still cheaper than making those by yourself. And it's a hole I chose to jump voluntarily. Ouch.
Got a phone call that all the small parts are now re-chromed, we'll see what we get in few days. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Kharon8 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 375 Location: Espoo, Finland
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Kharon8 wrote: |
Got a phone call that all the small parts are now re-chromed, we'll see what we get in few days. |
Correction, only B-pillars and door handles. But damn, they look like new.
At least the quality is very high, we'll see how long these last. No pics as I took them to garage and forgot to take pics. Maybe next time. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Kharon8 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 375 Location: Espoo, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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We've progressed so far that quarter window is going back and we got new seals for it, but really no idea how the seal goes in.
Basic form is U-seal, but it has a groove on the other side and long lip on the other side.
BobNotch had used a type14 seal which is different, so his pics aren't helping to this problem.
Sorry for no pics about this, I should have taken camera with me. I also sent an email to seller, they should know but no idea when they've time to answer.
Also some other questions:
Are the locking mechanisms in doors same as typ3? As driver side lock is somehow broken from the inside and latch doesn't really work properly. Getting another one from spare part T3 shouldn't be to hard.
Hood lock button also has a seal, but ISP West is asking $20 for one, the remains of the old one more or less look like an o-ring so one should do the job. Any objections? _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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gregson1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Kharon--not sure what's going on, but I can't respond to you via PM through the Samba.
Martin Hoontrakul is making the Type 34 Hook Deflectors through Shapeways. He's done a number of other products, as well. Check them all out here:
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=Type+34
Thanks for the link to your restoration page. There's some VERY NICE work being done, in my opinion. |
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Kharon8 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 375 Location: Espoo, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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gregson1 wrote: |
Kharon--not sure what's going on, but I can't respond to you via PM through the Samba.
Martin Hoontrakul is making the Type 34 Hook Deflectors through Shapeways. He's done a number of other products, as well. Check them all out here:
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace?type=product&q=Type+34
Thanks for the link to your restoration page. There's some VERY NICE work being done, in my opinion. |
No worries, this is as good as PM and Martin has useful parts so better make the URL public anyway.
But thanks for the compliments! And the URL, that looks exactly what I was looking for.
We've tried not to make too many short cuts ... or at least hide them so well no-one will see them.
Floor carpets are currently biggest missing part, but we do know two sources for those (UK and US), so just ordering is needed.
Engine is still in pieces, but all sheet metal pieces are painted and it just waits assembly. Heat exhangers are quite bad, we'll try to source better ones locally: Here in North working heater is really needed even in summer.
Electrics still need work and other small items.
Not much (or almost nothing really) happened during the summer season, but it ended last weekend when I packed VWs (typ14 & 412) & motorbike into garage and closed the door. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Kharon8 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 375 Location: Espoo, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Had some time yesterday so I fixed bunch of weird electric problems.
Front right parking light wasn't working as the small copper spring which does provide the ground contact to bulb was a bit of out of shape and did't reach to bulb, barely visible gap.
Took some time and bunch of resistance/voltage measurements to find as it was looking OK. It wasn't.
Other register plate light wasn't burning and missing ground contact was found fast, but cleaning contact point didn't help at all. What the heck?
The seal was so hard (*clink* -hard) that it didn't give at all and so the contact pin didn't reach to bumper when you tightened the screws. Hah!
Cut most of the seal between light frame and bumper away, so now it works and rock hard seal doesn't seal much anyway, better try to find new seals.
Then the real mystery: Speedo & clock background lights.
~6V comes to lamp, no lights. OK, quick measurements show that no ground. What the heck, take 2.
This caused a lot of pondering as there's zero grounding points visible for those and eventually we deduced that the backside of instrument panel doesn't have paint from the factory, so the gauge attachment band has had double function as grounding point.
We of course painted that part also so no ground. Fixed that with separare grounding wire and now we've lights in gauges, nice. Those are very, very dim and really can't be seen in normal room lighting at all. Probably work when it's dark, but at least the bulbs are lighted. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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gregson1 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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After seeing the horrible amount of rust on other cars, I made sure my body shop sealed/primed/painted everything, inside and out. I've had the same problem as you with grounding points for the dash lights and wiper motor ground. I had problems installing the fog lights because there was too much paint on the outer lip of the bucket. Grounds for the front turn signal housings were another problem area.
We are 'over-restoring' our cars!
356 license plate light seals work OK for our cars. There are two seals:
Base Gasket:
http://www.nlaparts.com/store/license-light-base-gasket-p-1624.html
Lens Gasket:
http://www.nlaparts.com/store/license-light-lens-gasket-p-1909.html |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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gregson1 wrote: |
After seeing the horrible amount of rust on other cars, I made sure my body shop sealed/primed/painted everything, inside and out. I've had the same problem as you with grounding points for the dash lights and wiper motor ground. I had problems installing the fog lights because there was too much paint on the outer lip of the bucket. Grounds for the front turn signal housings were another problem area.
We are 'over-restoring' our cars!
356 license plate light seals work OK for our cars. There are two seals:
Base Gasket:
http://www.nlaparts.com/store/license-light-base-gasket-p-1624.html
Lens Gasket:
http://www.nlaparts.com/store/license-light-lens-gasket-p-1909.html |
Yup, I ran into all of that myself. I know I over restored my own T-34 too. It's just normal when you see them trying to rust away when you first get them (I did anyway). _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Kharon8 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Thanks for the comments, so it was what I thought it was: Over-restored backside of the panel. Well, nothing major.
And yes, the problem with fog lights is familiar also, very tight fit.
Did some work in Monday and fixed brake lights (grounding problem between bulb and frame, nothing major), connected wiper motor (it works and even stops at rest position, nice) and cigarette lighter (said grounding problem for it too, separate ground wire fixed that).
Almost all electric parts are now connected sans side blinkers (the small plastic/copper part between wire end and bulb has been lost and AFAIK is not sold separately) and interior light (forgot to cut hole to roof canvas at installation and now it doesn't have a place).
Horn wasn't working at all, totally oxidized breaker points, but disassembly, cleaning and assembly helped and now it works. Made a page from previous round (with type14 horns but same horn):
http://kharon.suomiforum.com/www/horns/
We've only one horn so I'll have to look for another. The one we have is marked 'hoch', so low tone horn is missing.
Base engine is now assembled and some of the accessories are connected so it also progresses.
Better start early in the winter so there's less panic in the spring ... somehow the time from January to May is much shorter than time from August to December when you ought to have everything done by start of May. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Chuck67 Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Chuck67 wrote: |
Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Non scientific method, try it with 12V if it starts keeping sounds that millennium falcon does before light speed then most likely it is 6V. Fast try will not break the motor.
If it is nice and slow with 12V then it is indeed 12V.
Parts number also tells if it is 6V/12V _________________ -58 Typ2 ambulance
-62 Typ 34
-65 Typ 34
-73 411 variant all metal custom
-69 typ 2, 9 seater
-89 vanagon camper conversion matkaaja
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Chuck67 Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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tanhis wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Non scientific method, try it with 12V if it starts keeping sounds that millennium falcon does before light speed then most likely it is 6V. Fast try will not break the motor.
If it is nice and slow with 12V then it is indeed 12V.
Parts number also tells if it is 6V/12V |
Runs nice and slow so must be 12V
Thanks! |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Chuck67 wrote: |
tanhis wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Non scientific method, try it with 12V if it starts keeping sounds that millennium falcon does before light speed then most likely it is 6V. Fast try will not break the motor.
If it is nice and slow with 12V then it is indeed 12V.
Parts number also tells if it is 6V/12V |
Runs nice and slow so must be 12V
Thanks! |
Probably the wiper shafts have tried to rust to the bushings. The fix is to disconnect the battery, and pull the wiper assembly, then take it apart and clean and grease the wiper arm shafts. Then reassemble. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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reay Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
tanhis wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Non scientific method, try it with 12V if it starts keeping sounds that millennium falcon does before light speed then most likely it is 6V. Fast try will not break the motor.
If it is nice and slow with 12V then it is indeed 12V.
Parts number also tells if it is 6V/12V |
Runs nice and slow so must be 12V
Thanks! |
Probably the wiper shafts have tried to rust to the bushings. The fix is to disconnect the battery, and pull the wiper assembly, then take it apart and clean and grease the wiper arm shafts. Then reassemble. |
Take the seats out first. How are your yoga skills? _________________ Tom Reay
Da weiss man, was man hat!
68 Karmann Ghia Sunroof / auto T345
66 Standard Microbus T221
66 1200a Standard 115 with factory ragtop |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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reay wrote: |
Bobnotch wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
tanhis wrote: |
Chuck67 wrote: |
Stupid question
1965 T34 converted to 12V by PO
How do I know if the wiper motor is 6V or 12V?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Non scientific method, try it with 12V if it starts keeping sounds that millennium falcon does before light speed then most likely it is 6V. Fast try will not break the motor.
If it is nice and slow with 12V then it is indeed 12V.
Parts number also tells if it is 6V/12V |
Runs nice and slow so must be 12V
Thanks! |
Probably the wiper shafts have tried to rust to the bushings. The fix is to disconnect the battery, and pull the wiper assembly, then take it apart and clean and grease the wiper arm shafts. Then reassemble. |
Take the seats out first. How are your yoga skills? |
Good point, but at least the T-34 seats sit closer to the floor. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Chuck67 Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2006 Posts: 101 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Anyone using a hidden type stereo? If so how do you like it?
Which one do you have?
Thanks,
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Kharon8 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Chuck67 wrote: |
Anyone using a hidden type stereo? If so how do you like it?
Which one do you have?
Thanks,
Chuck |
Not in T34 but yes. Hidden in glovebox, works OK as the car is too noisy to listen radio/CD while driving anyway.
Radio itself is old Panasonic with CD, don't remember the model. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Chuck67 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Official Type 34 thread |
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Kharon8 wrote: |
Not in T34 but yes. Hidden in glovebox, works OK as the car is too noisy to listen radio/CD while driving anyway.
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Went with an Alpine 300 watts 4 channel digital amp, 2 kicker 6x9's in small boxes and an Install Bay Bluetooth receiver. System connects to my phone within seconds and as soon as music starts (phone, Pandora, Spotify, etc) amp remote powers on and sounds awesome. |
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