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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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I finished machineing the case today (had to deck it .340 on one side and .350 on the other to get the cylinders heights all the same and for the cylinder bases to clear) and have 1 head finished porting. I'll do the other head tomorrow then it's off to OLLIES for remachined Porsche 911 guides, then to Geoff Hart Performance for a trick valve job and assembly.
Getting close to fitting the crank/rods and the cam to see how much I'll need to machine the rods to fit. Starting to move along pretty quick now.
This shit just seems to take forever _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Finally back to work on the Speedwell Pepco 1397 engine.
Heads are at Geoff Hart Performance getting his trick 5 angle valve job and spring pressures set.
My WW crank being test fit. It has 5.325 chevy journal rods that we figured out how to work on a stock 36 hp rod journal. Custom ground by Web Camshafts WW cam blank.
If the cam didn't have so much lift the rods would have cleared it, but I'm not comfortable with .010 rod to lobe clearance, so apart it comes to clearance and rebalance the rods. The rods clear the case just fine.
Then another test and clearance check, one more scrub a dub dub on the case and get it glued together
Look how much shit still comes out of all the galleys, the block has all the plugs drilled and tapped, run through my parts washer machine, cleaned in a solvant tank, then ultrasonic cleaned. This is all the shit that was broken loose by the ultrasonic cleaner. I am going through all passages with a wire brush, then a fiber brush the a clean wipe ( I use gun cleaning supplies to do this)
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Beetspeed Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2004 Posts: 429 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:35 am Post subject: |
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VERY nice work on the rods and all! I won't ask how you exactly did that with bearings and such, but awesome to see the results!
I see you use inserts for the head studs?
Do your inserts have M10 thread on the outside like the original outside thread size of original 10mm headstuds?
thanks,
Walter _________________ '75 SB 1303 2,4ltr T4 turbo: 10.58 @ 129.9mph
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Beetspeed wrote: |
VERY nice work on the rods and all! I won't ask how you exactly did that with bearings and such, but awesome to see the results!
I see you use inserts for the head studs?
Do your inserts have M10 thread on the outside like the original outside thread size of original 10mm headstuds?
thanks,
Walter |
8mm chromalloy studs, custom made center studs for the WW Okrassa heads _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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Beetspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, 8mm studs, but what outer thread size for the case inserts? ie did you use the old thread in the casing or drilled and tapped new thread of, say, 12mm? _________________ '75 SB 1303 2,4ltr T4 turbo: 10.58 @ 129.9mph
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Beetspeed wrote: |
VERY nice work on the rods and all! I won't ask how you exactly did that with bearings and such, but awesome to see the results!
I see you use inserts for the head studs?
Do your inserts have M10 thread on the outside like the original outside thread size of original 10mm headstuds?
thanks,
Walter |
They are 12 mm. OLLIES has these custom made _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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Beetspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: |
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splitpile wrote: |
They are 12 mm. OLLIES has these custom made |
Excellent! That was what I was thinking too: more thread support in these 50 year old magnesium cases by using 12mm timeserts. _________________ '75 SB 1303 2,4ltr T4 turbo: 10.58 @ 129.9mph
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Beetspeed wrote: |
splitpile wrote: |
They are 12 mm. OLLIES has these custom made |
Excellent! That was what I was thinking too: more thread support in these 50 year old magnesium cases by using 12mm timeserts. |
I wouldn't use timeserts. I was original going to use 10mm timeserts but after talking to pople in the know, I said no no and went with OLLIES steel inserts _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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Beetspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, didn;t even know there was a difference.
Who is this Ollie? A machineshop? _________________ '75 SB 1303 2,4ltr T4 turbo: 10.58 @ 129.9mph
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gimmesomeshelter Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: San Carlos, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Hello-
http://www.olliesmachine.com/
Cheers,
Paul _________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
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Beetspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers Paul!
This made me smile:
'Air Cooled Porsches only -- sorry no Water Cooled'
_________________ '75 SB 1303 2,4ltr T4 turbo: 10.58 @ 129.9mph
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Shortblocked now. (Right before I stuck the case halves together). Got my deck height measured so I can order the custom pistons and will mock up the engine to build the intake for the Peppco
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36hplandspeedracer Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 847 Location: Ivins, Utah
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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One serious Challenger Ronnie to the fastest 36hp speed ever recorded!
I will be there cheering you on and hopefully witnessing VW history in the making. It is long overdue.....................and you should be proud for taking on the challenge.
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Intake for supercharger almost done
40/45 DCOE sidedraft to Pepco maifold also done. Just need to run it through the mill for some prettying up for a more shapely figure
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andy rowe Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2004 Posts: 115 Location: plymouth uk
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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loving that ^^^ |
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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greek_tony Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 243 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:18 am Post subject: Re: 1397 Pepco powered 36hp |
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Thread revival! !!!
Any updates on this? Any way to revive the photos as everything has disappeared.
Thanks! ! _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia - Sold
May 53 Ragtop - Resto started
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: Re: 1397 Pepco powered 36hp |
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This project has been on hold for a few years now as I wait for SPEEDWELL to fix the Pepco copy they make. On a test spin it barely makes 1 lb of boost. Hopefully, before I die Ray will either fix it or send me the new rotors so I can fix it. a lot of money sitting around. The worse part is if I go turbo I will have to split the cases and have another cam ground. Steve from WebCamshafts figured out and did the grind for a supercharger and it won't work very well with a turbo! More money down the toilet. _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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greek_tony Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 243 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:54 am Post subject: Re: 1397 Pepco powered 36hp |
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splitpile wrote: |
This project has been on hold for a few years now as I wait for SPEEDWELL to fix the Pepco copy they make. On a test spin it barely makes 1 lb of boost. Hopefully, before I die Ray will either fix it or send me the new rotors so I can fix it. a lot of money sitting around. The worse part is if I go turbo I will have to split the cases and have another cam ground. Steve from WebCamshafts figured out and did the grind for a supercharger and it won't work very well with a turbo! More money down the toilet. |
Oh crap! Got one too waiting to go on the 53... I hope I dont have the same problem. _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia - Sold
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Mr. Motorhead Mad Scientist
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 717 Location: Practitioner of 36hp alchemy
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1397 Pepco powered 36hp |
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Made a tattle-tale gauge like Bville Tom told me. Mine put out about 7 pounds of boost when I ran it on the salt last time I was out. Gained an extra 5mph right out of the box (installed while waiting in line to run). I don't think you will have any worries. _________________ 30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#
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