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Fifty-Eight Rag
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pan from the 67 turned out to be pretty decent...just a little rust but plenty of gunk. Still running the original VW pans...it's a beautiful thing.
Went ahead and cut out the small areas of rust and repaired them...got the wife involved and stripped the pan to the metal

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1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Treated the surface rust, spot primed and painted. Coated the bottom of the pans with a tough spray-on bedliner for protection and sound reduction.

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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Started on the trans. Got the axles off and took a look inside...as nasty as the outside looked the inside looked clean, so I have no reason to doubt the PO's claim that it was a good trans.

Cleaned it up, changed out the external seals, cleaned and inspected the wheel bearings...good to go.

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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting reassembly of the pan. Leveled it.
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Reinstalled the rear torsion bars to stock then dropped one outer spline to start. We'll see where it sits when all the weight gets on it. I'd like it down a little but not with the extreme camber.

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1956 Oval
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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to custom make a shifter.
I figured since I was such a fan of Ed Roth and Rat Fink as a kid...I'd have a little fun and make a shifter as a tribute to his monster drawings.
Dug around in the swap meet parts pile and found a Hurst Indy shifter for a pickup.

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Cut off the shaft

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Cut down my stock VW shifter

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Welded the two together

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Add one crazy metal flaked 8 Ball...VOIL'A! one Hot Rod custom shifter

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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More fun stuff...

Hung my new set of KYB's and thought to myself "As cool as these shocks are, they just dont fit my build theme"
After a little head scratching I come up with a plan that I think will work. I looked to the early 356 Porsches for inspiration and disguised my shocks as early red Konis.

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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Nice. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a fun project. I like the direction it's going!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you have a great start!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the comments...

Here's some more fun stuff

Inspiration from the Hot Rod world

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1956 Oval
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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got all the rear of the pan reassembled, bolted up the beam extender and beam and threw on the wheels to get an idea of stance

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Diggin' the rake...but hoping the weight of the body and engine will bring it down dramatically

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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working on the front axle...ordered all new brake parts.

Got more inspiration from the Hot Rod world...decided that since I'm staying Old School and running drum brakes for the look I might as well Hot Rod them as well...what better way then to add cooling scoops to the backing plates.

Started researching and found a cast aluminum possibility through O'brien Truckers, but it was too big and bulky looking for the VW backing plates...plus they are like $80 a set....ouch.

So I got myself a comfortable spot in the garage and sat there and looked around...once again, my swap meet pile of parts caught my eye. Right on top is a broken half of a 61 Oldsmobile grille that I've been hanging onto.

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Cut off a piece

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Got some sheet metal...hand formed a scoop to fit around it

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Fitted it to an old backing plate

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Trimmed up the grille piece

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So I will make a matching one for the other side, clean them up and paint and probably find some cool copper rivets to attach them to my backing plates when the time comes.
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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great backing plate idea. Kinda Pete & Jake. I drew up a fantasy disc brake set up a while back.

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Your chassis is starting to get that 60's drag car look which is fun as hell to stand beside isn't it? Keep going man,looks killer. Andy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome brake design...

I really dig that type of stuff.

I got plenty more ideas for other areas of the car
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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the brakes...

Started with solid 67 backing plates I picked up here on The Samba.

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Drilled venting holes in (blue arrows) and out (red arrows) to make the cooling scoops functional

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Glass beaded, painted and assembled the backing plates


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Figured, since Dr. Porsche would have been the one to design these brakes, he would want his signature on them.

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1956 Oval
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1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found out part of the reason my front suspension was so tight. Check out the misaligned ball joint from the PO.

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If you look, you can see where the original factory clearancing path is (yellow line) this machining is in line with the alignment notches on top. The PO obviously didn't read his Bentley when he cave-man-style pounded (yes, I said pounded) in the new joints.
I marked the new joint path that wore in from binding (red line).

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1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the old ball joint out, cleaned up the torsion arm and deburred the hole.

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I always remove the grease boot from the new ball joint before pressing it in, so it doesn't rip

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I also like to coat the hole with a good heavy oil (like Lucas assembly lube) so the new joint doesn't gall going in

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This is the tool to have if you are going to be doing ball joints yourself.

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Make sure the notches are oriented correctly

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Install the boot...done


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1956 Oval build thread
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1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298

1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Nice Reply with quote

Frankie looking good! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool build. I dig the wheels and tires. How many inches are you planning on chopping it ? I cannot wait to see pics of the sheet metal work.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I had half the talent you possess. Great project! I will enjoy watching.
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