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Ochie
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Location: Berlin, CT
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 Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: Rocker repair panels |
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I am trying to repair the passenger side rocker along with the sliding door track section. The sliding door track panel I purchased does not have the flange for spot welding to the cargo floor and the shape is cheesy/ incorrect. Who has the best quality middle rocker and sliding door track? NOS doesn't seem to be an available option. What is the best way to attack this repair?
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babysnakes
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Klassic Fab ( Gerson ) makes the inner/middle/outer rockers. Nice and sturdy. I cannot comment on the slider track because I did not need it. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have a NOS one if you have deep pockets. The gerson one is about as good as you will find
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Ochie
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Location: Berlin, CT
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Skills
How deep do my packets have to be? I don't mind spending more to get good quality. I'm waiting for a reply from Gerson about availability and price. Also I wasn't sure what part I needed. |
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Ochie
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Location: Berlin, CT
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wolfsburg West is out of stock until october.
Busdepot claims to be better quality. http://www.busdepot.com/9555042
Anybody have firsthand experience? |
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babysnakes
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Bus Depot claims "better quality". Better than what? The black primered metal is normally inferior to the "funky green panels" (Gerson). I have no problem with Bus Depot, I buy alot of stuff from them. Just not metal. You asked who has first hand exp., my living room last year for my single cab.
You can see a rocker piece in the last pic. Between the upper and lower nose. I bought both rocker sides complete. 6 pieces. My body guy likes the fit. they have very little fitment issues. No matter what you buy nothing will be perfect. |
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Coal64
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I had to repair.... replace both rockers and I probably should of replaced the slider door track.
about half way down you can find where how I replaced the inner and outer rocker I got them both from bus depot.
edit: there is also some nice shots of Gerson's green rocker there too.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=449872&highlight=yellow+floor
My buddy replaced his sliding door track before me and vowed to never do it again after his door would not align right. but if you really need to replace it your just going to need to drill holes or weld it in another way.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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deep....
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Juancho
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| My slider track has a pretty nasty groove in it. However, after having suffered through welding several body panels on my bus already, there is no way I am going to do the same to the track. I have been trying to figure out some sort of solution to fill the groove with epoxy. I tried the putty, but it didn’t quite work the way I expected. Is there some kind of epoxy that goes on like Bondo, but hardens like JB weld? Actually, come to think of it, I haven’t tried JB weld yet. I just need something I can get semi-smooth and flat when applied. I can then grind it completely smooth if need be. |
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Forest Ape
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Ochie, I'm about an hour and a half northeast of you. I have KlassicFab Rocker Panels from Gerson that I will sell to you for what I paid. I also have the short side rockers if you need them. Let me know.
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Ochie
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Location: Berlin, CT
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Skils Excellent pictures showing the Klasic fab parts versus NOS. Thanks. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| Ochie wrote: |
| Skils Excellent pictures showing the Klasic fab parts versus NOS. Thanks. |
the KF panel was super close to the original. me being an anal retentive jerk, i pulled out my micrometer for the sliding door track groove, and it was pretty close, the gerson being about .020-.030 in some spots, but i would not hesitate to use it.
i got lucky, and didn't need either one, so i sold the gerson at a swap and held on to the NOS one. i know living in connecticut i will have another bus that may need it
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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jtauxe 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Have you thought about lending that NOS VW part to Gerson, so that he can fine tune his?
That would be good for all future buyers of his stuff, some of whom may turn out to be your customers some day! 
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scrivyscriv
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WM971252
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| scrivyscriv wrote: |
| Skills how the heck did you get a NOS inner rocker??!? |
He knows all the right people.... 
Bus Depot carries or did carry Allan Schofield's panels (Classic Volkswagen Restoration) so that panel may be his. I never touched that piece but do know he tries to have the best fitting pieces and uses NOS as patterns whenever he can (and finds NOS pieces that you would never believe). |
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Busdepot
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| babysnakes wrote: |
| Bus Depot claims "better quality". Better than what? The black primered metal is normally inferior to the "funky green panels" (Gerson). I have no problem with Bus Depot, I buy alot of stuff from them. Just not metal. You asked who has first hand exp., my living room last year for my single cab. |
With all due respect, this only indicates that you have first hand experience with Gerson's metal. It doesn't mean that you have compared every available alternative. The fact that you lump all "black primered metal" into the same category indicates a lack of first hand experience with all of the various types of "black primered metal" that exist. Genuine VW replacement panels are often black. So are crappy aftermarket Brazilian knockoffs, and many levels in between. We source from a wide range of suppliers - VW themselves (typically black), Just Kampers and Schofield in the UK, Klokkerholm, and and others - based on available quality. Much of it is indeed far superior to versions sold elsewhere, and I say that having compared them personally. The color of the primer is not even a consideration, as it has absolutely no correlation to quality. Also we don't always update our photos when we find a better source for the same panel, as the quality difference would not be visible in a picture anyway, so the color of the panel you receive may or may not be the same as pictured.
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1967250s
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| OK, Busdepot, would you please put in the descriptions where and who makes your replacement panels and parts? They leave a lot to be desired. It would greatly help in your sales and appreciation here and all Bus owners and buyers. |
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babysnakes
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| Busdepot wrote: |
| With all due respect, this only indicates that you have first hand experience with Gerson's metal. It doesn't mean that you have compared every available alternative........ Also we don't always update our photos when we find a better source for the same panel, as the quality difference would not be visible in a picture anyway, |
Then I respectfully apologize. I have bought a couple of panels from you and they were Klokker. Though I am not familiar with all your photos, Klokker can have contour bends that are unmistakably Klokker. And since my post a year and a half ago, I know of a Samba member who has bought Schofield metal from you who is very happy with it. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| scrivyscriv wrote: |
| Skills how the heck did you get a NOS inner rocker??!? |
cuz i'm like fly shit...everywhere  and as pointed out, i know the right people 
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Busdepot
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| 1967250s wrote: |
| OK, Busdepot, would you please put in the descriptions where and who makes your replacement panels and parts? They leave a lot to be desired. It would greatly help in your sales and appreciation here and all Bus owners and buyers. |
Point well taken, but FYI in many cases there is already at least some indication in the descriptions. The ones that are described as UK made are either from Just Kampers or Schofield; both are comparable quality in my experience. Genuine panels are usually identified as such. Feel free to email us if you have any question about the sourcing of a panel that isn't noted.
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