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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: Hole repair Reply with quote

I recently recieved a split window decklid that is in great shape minus a few unwanted holes so thought I would post how I go about filling them.

As you can see there are a few to many holes and they are not perfect.

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I start off by cleaning the holes up with a uni bit or a drill bit. I try to go just big enough on the hole to clean it up. Four of them I drilled to 9/32" and will use a 1/4" plug to fill and the other two drilled to 5/16" and pluged with 9/32".

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I didn't have either size in my stash of 20 guage plugs. So out comes the hole punch and a scap piece of 20 gauge. You can also use a piece of left over repair panel to make these plugs if raw 20 guage isn't avaliable. A little hammer and dolly action is required to flatten the plugs after they are punched.

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I will use a piece of brass on the back side to hold the plug flush but anything from scrap aluminum to an old dolly can be used when tacking the plug in place. While the tack is still warm I will grind it down and use my hammer and dolly to stretch as well as flush up the plug. Only a couple of hits with the hammer are required. I like to do this for a couple of tacks and take my time as not to add to much heat and warp the panel. As a rule of thumb if you can hold your hand on the metal without burning yourself then its ready for another tack.

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Final result should be a nice smooth no bondo required repair. I hope this helps and thanks to all who have helped me over the years. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another quick tip if getting to the back side is out of the question. I will drill an 1/8" hole in the plug and use a klecko to hold the plug in place while I tack it. If you don't have kleckos you can use a rivet but only pull the rivet till it grabs the metal. Using the nail of the rivet to hold the plug flush and later drilling rivet out and welding the hole up.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! Good of you to share this knowledge. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been wondering how to plug the holes on the nose of my 1971 Westy.

Thank you for being so generous in sharing your methods. I am sure a lot of VW restorers out there had benefitted and will continue to benefit from the restoration techniques that you impart. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you did looks great and works. I'm just wondering why you: A - just weld the holes up solid and grind both sides smooth. B - use a piece of brass to back the hole and weld and only have to grind one side. Nothing wrong with what you did, just extremely time consuming for the same result.

https://www.google.com/search?q=matco+plug+weld+to...SawKNJM%3A

This is what I would use for the same repair
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

airedout wrote:
What you did looks great and works. I'm just wondering why you: A - just weld the holes up solid and grind both sides smooth. B - use a piece of brass to back the hole and weld and only have to grind one side. Nothing wrong with what you did, just extremely time consuming for the same result.

https://www.google.com/search?q=matco+plug+weld+to...SawKNJM%3A

This is what I would use for the same repair

The main reason is to minimize warpage from excessive heat. The time you save by rushing the welding you will be added to body and paint side of things trying to smooth out a warped panel.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anybody sell hole plugs?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We didn't have any trouble mig welding/grinding trim holes on our squareback fenders.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditto oldmanmark's question...
Can you buy sheet metal hole plugs in a variety of diameters somewhere?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff...I was wondering how to weld up the holes in my roof from an aftermarket rack (can't get to the back side due to the headliner.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenshapiro2002 wrote:
Great stuff...I was wondering how to weld up the holes in my roof from an aftermarket rack (can't get to the back side due to the headliner.



Better to not weld with the headliner in.. VW headliners are pretty flammable, at leas the one in the '70 I cut the roof off was...
Pull the headliner and weld, or use plastic or solder to fill the holes..(Not as permanent but safer...)

I doubt you'll find blanks to weld into sheet metal in the small sizes mentioned in this thread unless you make your own. The hole punch used to make the plugs can be bought for around $25 or so if you don't mind an imported one, and for metal, junk parts work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...I was wondering about the headliner catching fire. How would you go "plastic"?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with DJ Bill don't weld with the liner in and thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ Bill wrote:
... or use plastic or solder to fill the holes..(Not as permanent but safer...)


I had been watching some videos on youtube where guys were using silver solder to close up similar sized holes.. they made it look super easy and I had planned to use this technique. Are they known to fall out or some thing? You wrote "Not as permanent" (?)
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