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new_age_hippie Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:29 pm Post subject: 69 bay Not shifting |
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Hey,
So I am driving from Colorado to California and am broken down in Elko, Nevada. I was on interstate 80 in 4th gear and came to a hill and tried to down shift into 3rd. It wouldn't go out of 4th gear and I ended up pulling over and not being able to get it to go into any other gears. I got towed back to Elko no thanks to AAA. I have messed around with the shifting plate that usually does the job but this time nothing. I have a brand new coupler so it isn't that. I took off my shifter and removed the front rod. I did order a new front bushing for it but I do not think that is the issue. There aren't any shops around here that can help. Does anyone have any ideas or is anyone around here and doesn't mind helping me out? |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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does it come out of gear when the engine is off? If not the problem is likely in the trans and to repair it the engine and trans need to come out. You may have to pull the axles and tow it home or flatbed it. I don't know how the CHP and Nevada troopers feel about a car being towed backwards with the rear on a dolly otherwise. If it will come out of gear with the engine off then it may be the clutch or pilot bearing in the gland nut which can be replaced just by pulling the engine.
It is 420 miles to Sacramento, and only 230 miles to Salt Lake. You could find a place to store it there and fly home for probably about the same as it would take to tow it to one of the shops here. No one here does transmission work so they would have to ship the trans to someone to go thru it unless it is something simple in the nosecone. I don't know if there are any VW shops in Winnemucca NV but it is only 124 miles to there. There is a VW air cooled shop in Reno/Sparks, called Scudders Performance. You could call them and ask if they know of anyone out towards Elko. It is 285 miles to Reno/Sparks. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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new_age_hippie Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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SGKent wrote: |
does it come out of gear when the engine is off? If not the problem is likely in the trans and to repair it the engine and trans need to come out. You may have to pull the axles and tow it home or flatbed it. I don't know how the CHP and Nevada troopers feel about a car being towed backwards with the rear on a dolly otherwise. If it will come out of gear with the engine off then it may be the clutch or pilot bearing in the gland nut which can be replaced just by pulling the engine.
It is 420 miles to Sacramento, and only 230 miles to Salt Lake. You could find a place to store it there and fly home for probably about the same as it would take to tow it to one of the shops here. No one here does transmission work so they would have to ship the trans to someone to go thru it unless it is something simple in the nosecone. I don't know if there are any VW shops in Winnemucca NV but it is only 124 miles to there. There is a VW air cooled shop in Reno/Sparks, called Scudders Performance. You could call them and ask if they know of anyone out towards Elko. It is 285 miles to Reno/Sparks. |
Thanks, so I decided I am going to Tow it to SLC and have AAA pay for the first 100 miles. I know someone there who agreed to work on it and let me stay in my van in his driveway. I will post to this once he looks it over and we figure out what the issue is so if anyone else runs into this problem maybe they can fix it from reading this. |
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creative native Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1227 Location: WNC
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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Did you visually inspect the new shifter coupling? Considering the low quality of some aftermarket parts, it could have failed you. I wish I had more suggestions. Best of luck to you! _________________ "The holy land is everywhere." ~ Black Elk
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12721 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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creative native wrote: |
Did you visually inspect the new shifter coupling? Considering the low quality of some aftermarket parts, it could have failed you. I wish I had more suggestions. Best of luck to you! |
Who cares about more suggestions, this is probably the best suggestion.
Get eyes on the rear and front couplers, new ones aren’t great and bolts can come loose too.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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I am hoping that before you began towing someone at least moved the shifter forwards and backwards while you watched the shaft going into the transmission to be sure it was moving. If the shifter is frozen, are all the rods in place? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16959 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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There’s stuff inside the nose cone that can break. These parts can be welded back together but you have to pull the engine and transmission to do it. Better than replacing the entire transmission as just about any garage could do this repair. I can furnish pics if needed tomorrow _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50337
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:20 am Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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Could be the 3-4 slider, they fail with no warning.
You might be able to use two AAA 100 mile tows to get you to where you can get it repaired.
I pickup rental truck and a dolly can get you most anywhere without too much expense. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: 69 bay Not shifting |
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status update please if you can _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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