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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
now, If he had uppers I'd be set |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
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Split rears are coming from Powerflex VERY soon. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
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dubbified Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 1406 Location: Redmond, WA
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I liked the black urethane bushes over the purple/yellow..
In comparison to the Powerflex bushes, they also seemed made of a tougher/harder material.
Anyone noticing the same?
I think the powerflexes work very well in the UCA, and powersteering, not to mention were super easy to put in.
I'm almost curious if someone may dig into a bush that may have channels built in for lubrication, or go the likes of Delrin, which is self lubricating and wouldnt need anything over the life.
A buddy of mine had delrin, it didnt squeek.
Either way, I'm happy to give em both my biz, carrying aftermarket parts for the van, which is technically out of production is a very cool thing.
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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dubbified wrote: |
I tend to like a color of bushing that matches my ride |
One of mine is red, white and blue
Powerflex and comboed Powerflex and rubber on the rest of my vans.
I look forward to the two piece rear arm bushes.
My most recent install of Powerflex power steering rack and radius rod bushings on my 91 Syncro base model has felt very supple but supported firmly throughout articulation.
I like the feel of the radius rod bushes especially when creeping and the suspension is working. |
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gregaz Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2012 Posts: 407 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I keep seeing you refer to these as power steering rack bushings. Are there bushings for the NON power steering vans? I don't have power steering. |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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gregaz wrote: |
I keep seeing you refer to these as power steering rack bushings. Are there bushings for the NON power steering vans? I don't have power steering. |
Should be the same bushing, but check with Christopher on that. |
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70coupyel Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 1657 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Do you guys this that the same durometer hardness is the same with the different colors? Also does any of these transmit too much road vibration or noise? Kinda like like what goes on with the type I's. _________________
TheAndante wrote: |
Saying that specs are different than dimensions doesn't make sense. Porsche specs/VW specs/engineering specs are nothing but a series of dimensions,sizes,percentages,measurements, etc. |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338946&highlight=
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:20 am Post subject: |
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gregaz wrote: |
I keep seeing you refer to these as power steering rack bushings. Are there bushings for the NON power steering vans? I don't have power steering. |
Because the name is Powerflex, people tend to refer to them as power steering rack bushing. In reality, both power and non-power steering racks use the same bushings. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
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BillM Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 1381 Location: Stonington,CT
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I have been running the yellows on a 2wd...
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greggearhead Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 563 Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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When I had some front end work done (decided to pay for it for a change) I had both upper and lower ball joints replaced, lower control arm bushings done and the radius rod bushings, as well as front axles and lift springs and shocks.
I used T3 - Chris - for the lower control arm bushings from Powerflex and couldn't be happier. I used the factory rubber bushings for the radius rods, only because the Powerflex ones weren't available at that time.
I changed a lot of things, but I have used quality poly bushes in a lot of vehicles in the past and never been disappointed. I will use T3 for the upper control arm bushes when then need replacement next. _________________ 1972 Porsche 911E
1973 VW 412
1984 VW Doka
1991 Vanagon Syncro Westy
Period Lights, VW & Porsche wheels and Recaro/Scheel Seats for sale
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randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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dubbified wrote: |
Urethane, far superior ride. |
in what way? softer? more control, less harsh...?? _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
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danbar Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2011 Posts: 464 Location: North Bend, WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I was just talking to the owner of the shop I take my van to about this. I'm going to be out of town for a couple weeks so I was going to have him go through the front end while I'm gone. I think I'll pay for this rather than have my front end exploded all over my driveway doing it myself.
He said he prefers rubber to urethane for several reasons. Quieter ride, less vibration transmitted and of course, cost. He said he's done urethane and on long road trips it's definitely louder and a bit more unforgiving. He also clarified that this is his opinion and he knows others that like the urethane better. As far as the quality of the rubber aftermarket bushings he is still able to get OEM bushings so if the ones on my van lasted 150k miles then these should too. As for how I use my van, it's a 2wd auto Carat with GL springs on it. It does see some dirt road adventuring and I don't baby it. It's not an autocross van looking to pull 3gs in the corners. I like a nice comfy ride that will work on bumpy dirt roads on occasion.
So is there anyone out there that thinks urethane isn't worth the money or that prefers the ride of rubber? It's going to cost a lot in labor to have this done and another $600 or so for urethane bushings is a healthy chunk of change. I'm not trying to do this on the cheap, I'll pay to have quality work done with quality parts but if I can avoid spending unnecessary money that would be nice too. _________________ '88 SCA High/Pop-top Syncro camper
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
I am testing the Powerflex radius rod bushing set, yellow, soft, on my 91 Syncro Westy currently.
It has been raised to the max and had been having slight alignment issues.
Very nice so far. |
Glad you like them, took a bit of messing out they did. _________________
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I see you wanna start some shit. whats your fuckin probelm? your selling your measly shitty products. bloody brit |
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Christopher Schimke wrote: |
purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
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Split rears are coming from Powerflex VERY soon. |
already on sale.
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whynotvw wrote: |
I see you wanna start some shit. whats your fuckin probelm? your selling your measly shitty products. bloody brit |
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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2WD transaxle mountings just released also.
2 versions, 1.6l, 2.0l air cooled, 1.9l watercooled.
and Diesel, 2.1l and Automatic models.
We've been testing these for the last 12 months on and off and again they took a little faffing about to get them right as they were transmitting too much vibration to the body, we initially messed about with compounds going from yellow to the softer red, but even that was still noisey, after that Powerflex added some voiding into the bush and went back to the yellow - all good. _________________
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I see you wanna start some shit. whats your fuckin probelm? your selling your measly shitty products. bloody brit |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Brickwerks wrote: |
Christopher Schimke wrote: |
purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
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Split rears are coming from Powerflex VERY soon. |
already on sale.
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Yes, but being in the UK, you have an advantage. My stock has yet to arrive. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
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BillM Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 1381 Location: Stonington,CT
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Brickwerks wrote: |
Christopher Schimke wrote: |
purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
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Split rears are coming from Powerflex VERY soon. |
already on sale.
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Sure! But you won't ship to the US! Thankfully though
we have the top notch service of T3 Techniques.
Ordering from Chris is always a pleasant
experience. _________________ Bill M
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Brickwerks Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 214 Location: West Yorkshire - UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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BillM wrote: |
Brickwerks wrote: |
Christopher Schimke wrote: |
purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I like Burleys setup, being split they sure will be mucho easy to install.
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Split rears are coming from Powerflex VERY soon. |
already on sale.
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Sure! But you won't ship to the US! Thankfully though
we have the top notch service of T3 Techniques.
Ordering from Chris is always a pleasant
experience. |
Not posting to sell, posting for information.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=shop.product...ory_id=198
FYI.
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I see you wanna start some shit. whats your fuckin probelm? your selling your measly shitty products. bloody brit |
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madspaniard Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2008 Posts: 3795 Location: Alameda, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Brickwerks wrote: |
2WD transaxle mountings just released also.
2 versions, 1.6l, 2.0l air cooled, 1.9l watercooled.
and Diesel, 2.1l and Automatic models.
We've been testing these for the last 12 months on and off and again they took a little faffing about to get them right as they were transmitting too much vibration to the body, we initially messed about with compounds going from yellow to the softer red, but even that was still noisey, after that Powerflex added some voiding into the bush and went back to the yellow - all good. |
thanks for the info. I was looking at OEM auto tranny rubber bushing and it is around $300. Some cheaper aftermarket options. Any idea how much this Powerflex version would be? Chris, would you sell those too? _________________ 1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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madspaniard wrote: |
Brickwerks wrote: |
2WD transaxle mountings just released also.
2 versions, 1.6l, 2.0l air cooled, 1.9l watercooled.
and Diesel, 2.1l and Automatic models.
We've been testing these for the last 12 months on and off and again they took a little faffing about to get them right as they were transmitting too much vibration to the body, we initially messed about with compounds going from yellow to the softer red, but even that was still noisey, after that Powerflex added some voiding into the bush and went back to the yellow - all good. |
thanks for the info. I was looking at OEM auto tranny rubber bushing and it is around $300. Some cheaper aftermarket options. Any idea how much this Powerflex version would be? Chris, would you sell those too? |
If the new version work better than the old versions, then yes, I will stock them. Although I forwarded some information to Powerflex about how to help solve the problem, I have not seen the new mounts yet. Once I get my hands on some and can test them out, I will make a decision at that point. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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