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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Wild Westerner Club Reply with quote

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Welcome to The Wild Westerner Club Established September 10, 2012

The purpose of this Exclusive Club is to located all remaining Wild Westerners and save them from extinction. Since our start we have had many to debate the rumor that it was produced either in association with The Spokane Worlds Expo in 1974, or as a sales promotion using the colors of the expo. As of yet no conclusion has determined as to the creation. Most if not all were imported into the West Coast of The United States and were only produced in April and May of 1973. This Special Edition Transporter was exclusively manufactured for The U.S. market only. Many have bought over the past few years and shipped to Canada, Germany, Mexico, Portugal, The Netherlands, and The United Kingdom.

We have approximately 64 known Wild Westerners located and documented to date (5-1-18.)and have a list of approximately 27 that have been sighted. More unknown Wild Westerners pop up almost every month for sale, or on various social media.

We have a wonderful group of Owners and Contributors that have banded together to help locate and save these critters. We need your help as well, please join us by looking at all m-code plates on all 1973 VW Transporters for a specific set of numbers (736). Many have been repainted different colors or customized over the years therefore the m code plate is the true identifying mark. Check m code plates at car shows, salvage yards, parking lots and or transporters sitting around rusting away in fields or home-sites. (ask permission first).

Each month we will post an updated list of owners on this forum. Our goal is to have at least one Wild Westerner in every state by May 1, 2023.

Thanks to all that have helped and those who will help find and save these Magical Mystery Machines.
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List Updated July 3 2018
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Summary as of June-30-2018
Confirmed with VIN: 64.
Scrapped 5
Spotted but no VIN: 27
Unknowns found in M-Plate Query: 2
Margin of error 2 giggers

********ALL SERIAL NUMBERS followed by a:
(d) means Certicication Decals have been Issued
(u) unknown query using code 736
(s) confirmed scrap with serial number
(fs) for sale
(PO) previous owner
(PD) Production Date
(PE)Port of Entry
(DI) Date Decal Issued

CONFIRMED (with VIN)
2232 162 508...d...California,San Diego.........R. Woods........(DI 1-12-18.)..................(fs 2-18-18.) Flower Power
2232 166 505...u...unknown....................................................................query unknown using code 736
2232 167 686...u...Unknown....................................................................Query unknown using code 736
2232 184 851.......no info sold on ebay 7/2012
2232 185 820.......Ohio, Columbus.............................................................(fs 2-28-18.) (PO Alabama) upright motor, (PO Pacoima CA )
2232 185 909...d...California,San Diego.........Mark.............(DI 1-12-18.).................Automatic Transmission
2232 186 505.......California,Lake Elisor.....................................(PD 16 3)(PE UK).Salvage yard tranformed into pickup/sign bus ?
2232 186 727.......Iowa, Cedar Falls...........................................................Sunset Classics sold this WW, owner ? camper conversion
2232 187 622...d...California,Vista.............vwrestoman.......(DI 6-7-17) (PD 16 4)(PE UK)
2232 187 686.......Utah, Park City..............Rob R.........................(PD 16 4)(PE UN).Driveable
2232 187 705 ......Texas,San Angelo............ttagan93........................................originally from CA, drivable
2232 188 454.......Arizona,Prescott............Red Fau Veh....................(PD 17 2)(PE UK) Formerly Grazing & not for sale
2232 188 587.......South Carolina Myrtle Beach................................................ext paint avocado green, org from Cap Cod ,sold and lost
2232 190 382...d...North Carolina,Wake Forest..Biekersffe........(DI 6-5-17)..(PD 17 4)(PE UK)
2232 191 193...d...California,..............Palm Desert Classics.(DI 10-14-17).................(fs3-2-18.)(P/O Ca.Imperial S Harris)
2232 195 560...d...California, Fresno...........bustedtypeII.....(DI 6-5-17)
2232 195 651...d...Germany,Ausburg.............vwwolfsburg.......(DI 6-18-17)
2232 196 521.......Portugal Town?..............................................................(FS Jan 2018.) owner unknown spotted by nezz
2232 196 651.......California,Goleta...........College Student................(PD 19 2)(PE UA) Full Roof Rack(repainted diff color)(fS)
2232 196 569...d...California,Fresno...........bustedtypeII......(DI 6-5-17)..(PD 10 2)(PE UA)
2232 196 687.......California,San Jose ........Tcash...........................................(Dana Chamption ?) Safari
2232 196 745.......California,Sebastepol.......Ann B............................................Driveable
2232 196 784.......California, Murrietta.......ehgriffin
2232 196 807...d...California,Citrus Heights...volksinthevalley..(DI 3-29-18.)(PD 19 2)(PE UA)..(fs 3-19-18.)
2232 196 809.......Montanna,..................................................(PD 19 2)(PE UA)..Grazing info supplied by Cdennisg
2232 197 499.......California,(northern).......eholmes........................(PD 19 3)(PE UA)
2232 197 719.......Ohio........................Chazz79........................(PD 19 3)(PE UA)..Restored... Rollin..Kickin Ass an taking names
2232 197 990.......California, San Clemente....Aluminum luggage rack listed for sale on davidsclassiccars.com
2232 198 437...d...Idaho,Sandpoint.............reqsef in storage (DI 3-13-18.)..................(auto tranny) Driveable
2232 198 650...d...Oregon,Happy Valley.........Jimmy.............(DI 6-7-17)..(PD 19 4)(PE UA)..Sold and lost
2232 199 290...d...Mexico, Chihuahua...........Daniel............(DI 5-24-18.)(PD 19 3)(PE UA)..(For sale 5 18.) Asking $6000 meet at El Paso
2232 199 435...d...Germany, Rijnsburg..........VEMU Car Classics.(DI 1-15-17).(PD 19/5)(PE UF)''Sold by Lee In San franscisco 4-18 (currently for sale again 5-1-18.)
2232 199 641.......United Kingdom..............dumptruckface
2232 202 997...d...Texas,Arlington.............Kyle..............(DI 2-14-18.)..................For Sale (Contacted by ct67bug)
2232 203 152...d...Texas,San Antonio...........Davis.............(DI 10-14-17)
2232 203 003.......California,Fresno/Clovis....g.man..........................(PD May 14, 1973) (Port of Entry Portland)
2232 203 157.......Hawaii,Maui.................Tyler............................................Excellant Condition (brandt spotter) Driveable
2232 203 230...d...South Carolina,Georgetown...Sullivan..........(DI 6-5-17)..(PD 20 1)(PE UP)...(PO Joey.Portland*Barneys Barn,) Excellant Condition
2232 203 218...s...Washington,Puyallup.........Onetype Customs...................................RoofDamage.RollerPuyallup,WA $400.00 WA, now cut up for parts
2232 203 961.......Colorado,Vail...............................................(PD 20 2)(PE UP)..Supersweet hightop,seen at 2014 Barker show in SanDiego
2232 204 281...d...California,Stockton.........rixesride.........(DI 6-18-17)..(PD 20 2)(PE UP)..(PO Scrap Yard)
2232 204 832...d...Idaho,Parma.................Richard...........(DI 1-8-19)
2232 204 892 ..................................tyrussma........................(PD 20 3)(PE UA)..sold 8-31-15 lost
2232 204 895...d...Oregon,Dallas...............Ricosworld........(DI #-13-18.).(PD 20 3)(PE UP)..Drivable
2232 204 897.......New Hampshire...............Ross VW...........................................Driveable
2232 204 959.......Pensyvania,Beaver...........69Busboy........................(PD 20 3)(PE UP)..Rolling chassis..auto tranny PA In storage
2232 204 979.......Utah, Spanish Forks.........Matt............................(PD 20 3)(PE UP)..(Alaska) Sold and lost to someone in California
2232 205 005...... Texas,San Angelo............gooch21
2232 205 855...d...Canada,.Calgary Alberta.....jmottso1..........(DI 6-18-17)..(PD 20 4)(PE UP)
2232 205 972...d...Kansas,Manhattan............Dave..............(DI 6-10-17)
2232 206 505.......No Info.....................................................(PD 26 2)(PE UK)..Mcode pic on Sullivans gallery ?
2232 206 701.......TexasBus....................................................(PD 20 5)(PE UA)..Lamans Racing
2232 206 796...d...New Mexico,Grants...........MS FS.............(DI 6-6-17)...(PD 20-5)(PE Portland)(FO jtauxe)
2232 206 855.......California,Fresno...........vwluvers........................................(PO Nils88)then trader to neighbor ?
2232 207 639.......California,Novato...........Barbara.........................................(fs $9,500.00 415-897-3797)
2232 207 647.......North Carolina,Wadesboro.....................................................Sold and lost, Sarari
2232 207 670...d...Mexico,San Miguel...........Tito..............(DI 6-10-17)..{PD 21 1)(PE UA) Daily driver.
2232 207 913...d...Germany,Moer................Andre.............(DI 10-14-17)
2232 207 761...d...Texas,San Antonio...........Tippydean.........(DI 3-15-18.).(PD 21 1)(PE UA).Purchased in Austin Tx.
2232 207 829.......
2232 208 019.......Netherlands.................Tim van Viersen..................................Exported to Netherlands in 2010
2232 208 804.......Florida,Tampa...............Charles..........................................Outside repainted,diff color.$4,000 863-236-8899
2232 208 985.......Maryland, Kingsville........Mark Kless......................(PD 21 2)(PE UA).stenciling in blue stripe (The Panel Van Mafia)
2232 210 604.......Mexico, Navcalpan..........Javier Robledo....................................sold and lost 5536651487 near Mexico City
2232 211 399...s...Mexico......................Anycoloryoulike..................................Wrecked on both ends Arizona Title 9/2013
2232 211 417...d...California,Vista............vwrestoman........(DI 6-7-17)..(PD 21 5)(PE UA)..PO Lake Ellisor Salvage Yard)
2232 211 427.......California,Central Coast....Buscuss..........................................Driveable
2232 211 455...s...Washington,Spokane..........hubcapt.........................(PD 21 9)(PE UP).scraped..9-2012
2232 220 003.......California, Santa Paula.....listed for sale on davidsclassiccars.com
2232 220 828.......California, Santa Paula.....listed for sale on davidsclassiccars.com

SCRAPPED ********** We really would like to have the m code plate pictures off of these if possible. *************
Saint76.........no info .... Utah....Scrap yard.......RUST IN Peace Gone butt not forgotten Ut Deceased
Kirk............no info......Washington..cut up and used for westy WA Deceased

Please look carefully at the lists below and help clear up this section.

Reported sighting or advertized for sale (no info)

2232 000 000........Arizona,Teabaio Canyon, Red Fau Veh (Finder) For sale asking $5,500.00 AZ For Sale
2232 000 000........California, Semi Valley Picklewagon, Dad Sokal
2232 000 000........Bahamas, Freeport was spotted 1999. TJ
2232 000 000........California, San Diego Surfer Bus (Red Fau Veh Spotter) Craigslist Ca For Sale
2232 000 000........California, Herlong, norcalmike-spotter Ca no info
2232 000 000........California, Sonora...Benihanachef spotter
2232 000 000--------California,........Mober's fatherinlaw owns it April 2018
2232 000 000........California, Las Angelas....called left message no reply
2232 000 000........California, Pasadena...no info
2232 000 000........Colorado, Denver no info.....cyclemut-spotter Co no info
2232 000 000........Carlsbad Asking $5500.00, Exterior Repainted,DiffColor, 760-643-7130, Spotter Sullivan Ca For Sale
2232 000 000........Idaho Craigslist 4-15-18 for sale automatic w/ spare tranny $2000 no windows(mtcamper spotter)
2232 000 000........Idaho, Twin Falls craigslist mtcamper april 2018 for sale no windows, no slider
2232 000 000........Idaho Craigslist 4-15-18 for sale automatic w/ spare tranny $2000 no windows(mtcamper spotter)
2232 000 000........Germany Spotted on car hauler ad Jan 2018 vwwestyman driver contacted ( Same as aircooledshop per Ms Rixie)67ctbug
2232 000 000........Mexico,Guadalajari.............(Daniel)
2232 000 000........Minnesota, Minneapolis seen at Harmon Park Music Garden in 2011
2232 000 000........Montana, Hamilton seem running in early 2014 Hutch 72
2232 000 000........Oregon, Cottage Grove reoccurring ad on craigslist no one answers phone (White paint pass side)sunnydog
2232 000 000........Oregon, Creswell...spotter mike09871 Drivable
2232 000 000........Texas, Arlington Jan 2018 Facebook
2232 000 000........Washingtom, Spokane ... Exterior Flat Black ... no info
2232 000 000........Washington, Buckly no info..76 Westy (craigslist ad)
2232 000 000........Washington, Spokane v.dubbin sold to someone in Spokane a long time ago
2232 000 000........Jerome Jamboree... Red Fau Veh / Dessertbus man
2232 000 000........Red Fau Veh received call about a Kawasaki Green Bus Owner
2232 000 000........Notchboy late bay forum email sent no reply
2232 000 000........Dan Inghran no info



Salvage yards visited

4-18 Lake Ellisor, Ca ------Yard Survey Completed by ED revealed one Wild Westerner (chopped top pickup)

Salvage yards that need to be visited^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Volunteers needed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mid America in Effingham, IL (700 VWS)(Middle America)
Gold Mine Continental Specilites in Alamogorto, NM (currenty not open but owner wants to sell out)March 2018 (jtuaxe)
Spokane Washington one has been reported in a salvege yard.2232 411 455 M code plate cut out of wall.
Salt Lake City, Utah (no info) one has been spotted in a junk yard.

Confirmed with serial numbers by location ...

Canada 1 Germany 3 Mexico 4 The Netherlands 1 Portugal 1 United Kingdom 1 United States 53

Arizona 1 California 22 Colorado 1 Florida 1 Hawaii 1 Idaho 2 Iowa 1 Kansas 1 Maryland 1 Montana 1 New Hampshire 1
New Mexico 1 North Carolina 2 Ohio 2 Oregon 2 Pennsylvania 1 South Carolina 2 Texas 6 Utah 2 Washington 2

Please Update me with any mistakes and or new info /// I am having difficuilty finding everyones m code plate, it appears gallery photos get deleted on inactive accounts. If you do not see production date listed for your Wild Westerner please send a picture of the m code plate.

The purpose of showing Decal Issue dates is to show the owner's information is correct on that date and decals were sent.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Wild Westerner Club Reply with quote

Already started. See Safares....Where are they?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to intrude, but how does gathering up safares = saving Wild Westerner Editions?
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Just parted out a 73 WW this weekend, bus was rusted heavily in roof and lower body, no title etc, parts will be posted in the classifieds once I get the chance.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should start tossing out our production number right here.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: wild westerner club Reply with quote

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I believe the Wild Westerner designation was coined by a dealer, it isn't official VW. Doesn't matter what they are called, though I don't get the western connection from the paint job, do you?

Most buses bearing these colors have had a Safare Custom Campers conversion. How many non-campers do you know of with that paint job?

So, saving Safares is also saving Wild Westerners. I think it would make sense to make the Safares....Where are they? thread a combined thread, like, Safares/Wild Westerners...post here, please.

What do you and anyone else think about that?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: wild westerner club Reply with quote

Buscuss wrote:
secretsub,
I believe the Wild Westerner designation was coined by a dealer, it isn't official VW. Doesn't matter what they are called, though I don't get the western connection from the paint job, do you?

Most buses bearing these colors have had a Safare Custom Campers conversion. How many non-campers do you know of with that paint job
?

So, saving Safares is also saving Wild Westerners. I think it would make sense to make the Safares....Where are they? thread a combined thread, like, Safares/Wild Westerners...post here, please.

What do you and anyone else think about that?

cheers, Buscuss


I don't think I have ever seen one that WAS a camper, at least not in person. I have seen several Wild Westerner passenger buses, though.


I think it would be best kept all in this thread, below.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: wild westerner club Reply with quote

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I don't think I have ever seen one that WAS a camper, at least not in person. I have seen several Wild Westerner passenger buses, though.

I have to agree, aside from Buscuss' I think I recall one other on Ebay once, at least a couple dozen stationwagons though.

Maybe ask Ev to retitle the thread Eric linked although I see nothing wrong with it as is.
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Buscuss wrote:
I don't get the western connection from the paint job, do you?

Yep, turquoise color. And turquoise is the valuable mineral and gem of the Southwest. And the Southwest is the Wildwest and the home of the last of the wild Westerners. We're talking Arizona, and portions of Nevada and New Mexico. 30 years ago Wall Street Journal billed Scottsdale AZ as the last town of the Wildwest. Our great Sheriff Joe and legislation legalizing carrying handguns in bars help maintain the tradition.
The color turquoise is common in the SW architecture as well as turquoise being most dominent in SW Native American Indian jewelry and art.
As far as AC buses, well they are kinda' a remnant of the wild past Laughing Totally different than whatever color would be associated with East Coast City Slickers Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: wild westerner club Reply with quote

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Buscuss wrote:
I don't get the western connection from the paint job, do you?

Yep, turquoise color. And turquoise is the valuable mineral and gem of the Southwest. And the Southwest is the Wildwest and the home of the last of the wild Westerners. We're talking Arizona, and portions of Nevada and New Mexico. 30 years ago Wall Street Journal billed Scottsdale AZ as the last town of the Wildwest. Our great Sheriff Joe and legislation legalizing carrying handguns in bars help maintain the tradition.
The color turquoise is common in the SW architecture as well as turquoise being most dominent in SW Native American Indian jewelry and art.
As far as AC buses, well they are kinda' a remnant of the wild past Laughing Totally different than whatever color would be associated with East Coast City Slickers Razz
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&a...KWTb1roIMU

Now maybe it's my aging eyes but I'm not seeing the turquoise Confused
I was under the impression the WW was some sort of dealer special order to coincide with or promote the worlds fair in Spokane WA, the greens (that's what I see) do sortof represent the agriculture of the area and since it's not east of the mississipi I guess it's the "wild west". Spokane still has rattlesnakes, hot summers and mean spiders and there may have been the odd outlaw pass through the area so it's plausible IMO Smile No doubt VW didn't play favorites and happily delivered buses with the special paint package to any dealer who ordered one.

Regardless I hate it when these threads get bumped as a WW is on my bucket list, the last decent one close by came up at a time of thinnner than normal wallet and I'm still kicking myself Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wild westerners started life as campers. Many sat in dealer lots due to the colors and were deeply discounted to get them sold. Even in the 70's the westerner was too abnormal to be a hot seller. Many were repainted before they left the lot, others were sold at deep discount to conversion companies and made into campers.

All wild westerners started out as black interior station wagons. Safare and asi only got ahold of some of these because the price was right.

They were officially labeled wild westerner by vw as a line item sales code upcharging 75.00 for the package.

You will not find history of this bus existing. There are no paint codes anywhere on bus, the space for it on the m-plate is blank. You'll find the colors used as 73-74 beetle codes apfel grun, and revenna grun.

The wild westerner is an enigmatic machine. I will continue to do what I can to amass knowledge and be an ambassador of wild westernery goodness.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The theory that the WW was a special order package for the World's Fair has been debunked, partially because the fair was a year after the package came out.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: wild westerner club Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Now maybe it's my aging eyes but I'm not seeing the turquoise Confused

You're probably right since I've never seen a Wild Westerner Bay in person.
This is the only thing I based my opinion and SWAG guess on.
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Looks somewhat close to me unless Buscuss's picture color is off. But I do see his has more green. Now if we're talking real turquoise frequently it is real greenish, sometimes very blueish.
As far as the Wild West, well there is the West and then there is the Wild West. I wouldn't want to disagree with the good old boys down in Tombstone. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing turquoise on this one.

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The theory that the WW was a special order package for the World's Fair has been debunked, partially because the fair was a year after the package came out.

Possibly, but I'm not fully convinced yet.
Having experienced both a worlds fair and Olympics here in Vancouver the lead up years to the event far exceed the actual event. After the initial media whining about displaced low income unfortunates and economic doom that it'll bring the mood turns to happy optomism in the last 18 months, a few well written letters to VW by a gung ho dealer with all the rah!, rah!, the world is coming!, blah, blah, golden opportunity, what a party!, we'll all be rich! bandwagon hype that everyone climbs onto could have swayed the color gurus to offer a SE. Not saying it's fact but my dad thought like the stereotypical car salesman (quite sucessfully too) and it's something I can imagine him doing in a heartbeat, jump on the hype while the jumping's good! And why was it seemingly only delivered "out west"?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The theory that the WW was a special order package for the World's Fair has been debunked, partially because the fair was a year after the package came out.

Possibly, but I'm not fully convinced yet.
Having experienced both a worlds fair and Olympics here in Vancouver the lead up years to the event far exceed the actual event. After the initial media whining about displaced low income unfortunates and economic doom that it'll bring the mood turns to happy optomism in the last 18 months, a few well written letters to VW by a gung ho dealer with all the rah!, rah!, the world is coming!, blah, blah, golden opportunity, what a party!, we'll all be rich! bandwagon hype that everyone climbs onto could have swayed the color gurus to offer a SE. Not saying it's fact but my dad thought like the stereotypical car salesman (quite sucessfully too) and it's something I can imagine him doing in a heartbeat, jump on the hype while the jumping's good! And why was it seemingly only delivered "out west"?


Good points, but why wouldn't it then have been called the "Expo Edition" or something like that?

Plus, the colors don't really match with the Expo 74 color scheme. If the bus was meant to be an option directly related to the Expo, I would expect them to match the color scheme more closely.

http://expo74.brandx.net/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Wild Westerner Club Reply with quote

Some folks here are just guessing at the true origin of the color scheme. Hopefully this will lead to the actual history. I have seen many transporters with this paint scheme and maybe 1 safari so i feel it is so that they maybe were repainted. Anyone having any knowledge of the serial numbers of the numbers and or a source to find the history of these buses please contact me. Currently i"m restoring one and feel these buses should be kept alive. Bill [email protected]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: Wild Westerner Club Reply with quote

mannys your bus looks almost new compared to the one I'm restoring. So keep me informed as to the progress. As for myself I'm gonna make this a beach cruiser complete with a super long surfboard on top, Dead Head and other stickers. And if you decide to part with it let me know. Tks Bill
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: wild westerner club Reply with quote

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secretsub,
I believe the Wild Westerner designation was coined by a dealer, it isn't official VW. Doesn't matter what they are called, though I don't get the western connection from the paint job, do you?



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