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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Absent Chime Upon Key Insertion Reply with quote

Hey all,
So I just got my first Westy, and one of my fond memories from my first time in a Westy as a child was the charming melody coming from the dashboard when the key was placed in the ignition. I was looking forward to hearing this upon every startup of my new (to me) van, but it doesn't actually work in this particular Vanagon. I just checked all the fuses tonight and replaced two which were fried, but still the chime is missing.
Do all Vanagons have this ignition chime? Only certain years? Should my 89 Westy have a chime?

Thanks for your input!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are probably missing the black square chime (looks like a relay)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chime should be in your car. People often pull the chime and yours mqy be missing. They plug into a socket they clips onto the top of the fuse box.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup, one for me of the single most annoying things in a car, anything that beeps or chimes

i rewire them so they have a decent use, telling me that the door is open, orsum
telling me that i could accidentally leave the lights on, now it's worth something
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key chime a true idiot box IMO, consider yourself luck your system no longer works. I agree with Rubbachicken, there are a lot of better uses for the chime than needlessly telling you your key is in the ignition.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez guys, way to rain on someone's memory of what makes the Vanagon such a special vehicle, no matter how much you may not see it the same way. I am not a big fan of the chime either, but it sounds like the original poster really misses it's input.

The part number for the chime is 321 919 433 B. As luck would have it, there is one listed in the classifieds right now:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1125852

If you can't get the chime from the ad, let me know and I am sure that I can dig one up for the same price.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a vanagon meet in south city on Sat. There may be someone attending that has one for you.
It is a nice informal meet where people just hang out and shoot the breeze.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=522993

If I am able to get out of working on Sat I have one that I can give you.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thatvwbusguy wrote:
Geez guys, way to rain on someone's memory of what makes the Vanagon such a special vehicle, no matter how much you may not see it the same way.


Ditto; but it happens every time the chime relay is mentioned. Some folks out there simply enjoy hearing their vehicles sing Volks-wa-gen to them; nothing wrong with that. My Cabriolet still has its chime relay in place; I promptly ripped it out of my van though.

thatvwbusguy wrote:
The part number for the chime is 321 919 433 B. As luck would have it, there is one listed in the classifieds right now:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1125852

If you can't get the chime from the ad, let me know and I am sure that I can dig one up for the same price.


All VWs of the same era (mid-'80s to through the '90s) use the same relay. Another option is to head to your local junkyard. One place you definitely don't want to go: your VW dealer ($110!! Shocked ).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you find one, you can wire it to work as a "you left your lights on" warning.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charming melody???

My 85 (which I believe to be totally original, I think there is German air in the tires Very Happy ) has a nails on chalkboard buzzer if the keys are in the ignition and the door opened. Is that the situation under discussion?

hard to believe that brings back happy memories Question
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I smash those annoying things with a 9lbs sledge....after removal of course Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, when we got our van it was our first VW and I had never heard that chime before. It was just another one of the strange and wonderful qualities of this unfamiliar vehicle. I soon became annoyed by it like everyone else and removed it. That was two years ago. Recently I found a thread describing repurposing it as a headlights on warning, so I did that.

To my surprise, there was a moment of fond recognition when the chime was heard again. Smile I like it as a headlights on warning signal.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The truly sick, like me, use a different buzzer out of another VAG product to get a different sound.

I have a small collection of them.

My problem is my switch contacts do not always work right and it does not always chime......
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have one, never knew I was missing it. Anyone care to post a clip of the sound?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

subter wrote:
I don't have one, never knew I was missing it. Anyone care to post a clip of the sound?


Embed has been disabled, but here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSsxCzTfQpQ&t=18s .

Up to 1985, the door buzzer was exactly that: "Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz". Beginning in late '85 or for the '86 model year, the Volks-wa-gen song was introduced and stuck around up through the A2 chassis era. The A3s got a song that's even worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCs4HKgDrk .
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
subter wrote:
I don't have one, never knew I was missing it. Anyone care to post a clip of the sound?


Embed has been disabled, but here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSsxCzTfQpQ&t=18s .

Up to 1985, the door buzzer was exactly that: "Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz". Beginning in late '85 or for the '86 model year, the Volks-wa-gen song was introduced and stuck around up through the A2 chassis era. The A3s got a song that's even worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCs4HKgDrk .


My 81 has the brain splitting buzzer that goes off when you open the door with the key in. Luckily I rarely open the door with the keys in and it also doesn't work most of the time. I think it's a wiring issue. Is my style a relay as well? Are the two interchangeable?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

subter wrote:
Are the two interchangeable?


As far as I know, yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoot, I never heard that one. I've got an '85 and found a relay sitting in the glove box. Probably the buzzing type. Anyway, after a couple years at the bottom of the box I threw it in another box in the garage. Haven't seen it since. But I kinda like that sound. I'd throw it in. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird. I've got a Canadian '91 GL Camper and it's a bastard of a buzzer. My wife wants to kill it.

Anyone have a friendly chiming one that they're not using and willing to part with? I'm hoping to re-wire as a headlights-left-on notifier, but man it'd be way more pleasant if it didn't remind me of an alarm clock I once turned off with a hammer...

*edit* just saw the ad link... I'll be pursuing that one if the OP doesn't grab it... Smile
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