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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common' guys--

Cutting an engine sealing area on a pottery wheel?
No measuring devise of any kind required?

Fred Flntstone techniques are sill in vouge in Vanagonland I guess.

for example;
The same sort of seal is used on the floating hubs of the drive axles & trailer axles of semi's.
The hubs are full of oil to keep the bearings cooler, and last longer.
They ride on the axle hub, which looks exactly like the hub on that flywheel, and uses a CR seal inside of the wheel hub.

I've burnished a bunch of them to clean them up, and give a week or two either way--they always come back pissing gear oil all over inside of the wheels & tires.

I have two choices;
Call the axle surgeon who cuts off the stub axle off the main axle, and welds a new one on there, or order a CR wear ring & approriate seal to fit.

The axle surgeon costs $900.00 per stub axle, the new wear ring & seal costs $58.00.

This is no brainer, and is a simple task.
Just as it would be for the flywheel hub--wham, bam, it's all brand new.

For the long term end result's of this unsavory job ( spliting the trans from the engine etc.)
I wouldn't give the wear ring a second thought--just do it, and be done with it.

It's one hell of a better idea that cutting up the hub into the unknown, and just slapping a stock seal back in there that may leak pretty quick.

How bout for the hack' Sticky--

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose you're not gonna like my DIY flywheel lock, either...
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PS: Before install, I tested the new seal on the refinished flywheel...nice and snug...

Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had done that job In Kelly Lake it would have been done better.

I should have known this was a Finlander approach--
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing a little STP can't fix, eh?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if was the STP glue---
Or the Moyaka fish head soup he's been consuming that caused him to come up with the potter's wheel trip---

Never consider exact mesurment's or a machine shop-- there is none in the Land of Eternal Cold.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW - the wife is Finn...I'M NORWEGIAN...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
I suppose you're not gonna like my DIY flywheel lock, either...
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Laughing

PS: Before install, I tested the new seal on the refinished flywheel...nice and snug...

Wink

that is cool, i'll have to remember that when I do the subies swap
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya' Sure.

I knew I was close as soon as I saw the way the chain was hung--
Plus seeing as you are up on the Range do what ya gotta do.

You could have used dividing rods to measure the clearance between that hub & the seal prior to stuffing the flywheel
in the hole--been a lot closer than eye balling the job.

Aeh?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back from the dead...

Finally finished this job (clutch, all related seals & CV's) & I've now run the rig ~250 miles.
Went under to snug CV bolts and all looks good...no leaks, no drips, no embarassing wetness. Wink

Oil change today & I'll put it away for the winter.

See ya in the spring!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

Now 4000 trouble-free miles, and still "no leaks, no drips, no embarrassing wetness"...

Could it be that 10cent was right...??? Only time will tell! See you next year!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annual update:

Now 10,000 miles on my "DIY driver-drill flywheel"; still dry & still rolling...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
Annual update:

Now 10,000 miles on my "DIY driver-drill flywheel"; still dry & still rolling...

Cool


Thanks for that update.

I had a good laugh reading this thread.

Good to see pics of wear and get a better idea of what's going on between the flywheel and engine oil seal. I had no idea the seal would wear the crank. Figured it'd be the other way 'round. Another thing to check on the flywheel.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: DIY flywheel hub refinishing... Reply with quote

PS: Sorry skipped a year...now 20k dry, trouble-free miles...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: DIY flywheel hub refinishing... Reply with quote

FWIW: Same, now 40k & counting... Cool

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FYI: Resident guru/recent post... https://intrepidoverland.com/making-mainseals-seal/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: DIY flywheel hub refinishing... Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
FWIW: Same, now 40k & counting... Cool

- Dave

FYI: Resident guru/recent post... https://intrepidoverland.com/making-mainseals-seal/


i fear my groove is too deep for your fix... love that you have put 40k on your van since 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: DIY flywheel hub refinishing... Reply with quote

^^^ The "fingernail test" seems to be the gold standard to determine if you should even bother. You decide! Wink

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PS: I have also loved all 40k miles... Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: DIY flywheel hub refinishing... Reply with quote

Thanks for the follow-ups Dave. Just shows you can whine and wave your hands about, or be some obsessed safety scold treating mature adults like children, or you can STFU and do the frackin' job. I like people in the latter category.

Dabaron, if you're not sure about your groove being too deep, go ahead and sand it out, it costs only a little time. Then test fit your seal onto the hub, you'll be able to tell if the lip has to expand a bit to fit the hub. You can also shorten the lip tension spring about 1/8 - 3/16" to increase lip pressure a bit.
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