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ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: What torque wrench to use |
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OK have a few old Craftsman Torque wrenches, one that turned out to be a POS.
Looking at new torque wrench, but I'd like to know the Torque Wrench ranges you guys have for engine assembly. _________________ Good Luck
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tmcdade Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2008 Posts: 195 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I bought this one last year when I was planning on doing my build myself - ended up having someone else do it, but it's a top quality wrench, IMO
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LA19P2/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Some people prefer a beam style wrench, and say they're more accurate or hold calibration better - idk, I'll let them debate about that. For the gland nut and things above 100 ft/lbs, you can use a torque multiplier available at most VW shops _________________ Travis
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3580 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Except for the gland nut, the highest torque value is 43 pounds on the engine. Most are in the teens and twenty's. A 0 to 50 would be a better choice than a 10 to 100. |
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Snap On clicker......will last a lifetime and Warranty. |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
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My Snap-on torque wrench is 25 years old and still going strong. I get it checked every year for calibration. Mine is a clicker type 5-75ft/lbs. Buy once, cry once and never have to guess if your tool is correct.
Get one where the middle of the torque range is where you'll be using it most. At the bottom or top of their ranges they are a little bit less accurate.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76939 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Torque wrenches are less accurate at the extremes so i have 3.
1/2" 25-250 ft-lbs KD
3/8" 10-100 ft-lbs SK
1/4" 10-100 in-lbs SK _________________ Glenn
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 12785 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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I stopped using clicker wrenches and not only use the beam/pointer type. _________________ It's just advice, do whatever you want with it!
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JoeD Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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[email protected] wrote: |
I stopped using clicker wrenches and not only use the beam/pointer type. |
I uset to work in a shop that calibrated guages and things like torque wrenches. The beam ones loose their accuracy much faster than the quality click ones do. Most people dont even know how to operate a beam type wrench and end up having a much lower torque. Its one of the reasons the click type was developed. |
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pallen Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2012 Posts: 589
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JabaDubRider Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2012 Posts: 341 Location: Highland Mi
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69827 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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JoeD wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
I stopped using clicker wrenches and not only use the beam/pointer type. |
I uset to work in a shop that calibrated guages and things like torque wrenches. The beam ones loose their accuracy much faster than the quality click ones do. Most people dont even know how to operate a beam type wrench and end up having a much lower torque. Its one of the reasons the click type was developed. |
How does a beam wrench lose its accuracy?
It seems like it would have to be physically damaged in some way or the metal would have to lose it's properties, perhaps through extreme heat, like putting a torch on it. _________________ How to Post Photos
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JoeD Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2012 Posts: 146
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Got me. I asked and I was told but I didnt understand.
But they do. We had ones off by 30%. |
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3580 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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This post had me looking on flebay. Just bought a Tohnichi 460 F-N 1/2 drive. Don't know if it's calibrated but it is a very well made tool. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26789 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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If it's calibrated then it is good.
I have seen craftsman off by 15 pounds, but all it needed was adjustment. If you can't figure out how to adjust them then you can just make a chart that tells you what to set it at for the torque you need.
THe only one I ever saw that was complete garbage was one from autozone where I think the chinese messed up converting foot pounds to newton meters. The handle only had 8 lines on it? the marks on the wrench did not line up with the handle!
You can rig up a system to calibrate a torque wrench yourself fairly easily, depending on what you have on hand. At a minimum you'd need a tape measure and a bucket and a measuring cup
Once you have just ONE good torque wrench you can calibrate all the others, just hook them together with a socket! |
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kielbasa Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1443 Location: Garbage Grove, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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My matco 3/8 10-100lbs works bitchen. What's more amazing is my harbor freight ones seem to work just as well. When my matco was brand new i tested the harbor frieght ones against it... acurrate to atleast a few lbs. _________________ Gotta give my props to:
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SamT Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2009 Posts: 1761 Location: Rule, Tx
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Wife bought me a snap on 3/8 some years ago at a pawn shop. I have a harbor freight one I loan out, I never get any complaints. |
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Altema Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2010 Posts: 2904 Location: Lower Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
How does a beam wrench lose its accuracy? |
That's what I'd like to know. Yes, a cheap one will fatigue or bend, but not a quality unit. If I'm building an engine I care about, I'm not going to be using a $19.99 torque wrench made from melted down tin sheds. I have three; click, dial, and beam, but I use the beam the most.
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Islandman Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2008 Posts: 671 Location: Clarksville, TN
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ooh, don't forget the mighty Ungawa. Instant one handed torque to 350 with a clunk instead of a click when achieved. LOL!
Snap-On 3/4 in drive 100-600 ft lbs:
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76939 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Only problem is the max torque is 30mkg (217ft-lbs). So if you plan on exceeding the factory torque spec for the gland nut, you'll need a bigger wrench. _________________ Glenn
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26789 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Not zero'd
needs calibration |
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