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vanilla_gorilla13 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2010 Posts: 133 Location: Hialeah, Fl
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: new pedal cluster feel... |
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i just picked my car up from my mechanic from getting the pedal cluster replaced in a 71 super beetle. the old cluster we believe was the original and it snapped at the elbow on the clutch pedal. so i wanted to replace the whole thing and cables. my question is, is the new cluster suppose to feel like a hot knife through butter? basically im just concerned about the ease, compared to what ive been dealing with the last 2 years with the old one... thanx in advance. _________________ '71 Super Beetle (sold) |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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You'd be amazed to the amount of dirt and grit that gets into the cluster. I rebuilt mine a few years ago and wished I did it sooner. _________________ Glenn
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oh ya repair my clutch lever and after the dissassemby and reassembly by golly smooth as silk. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
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vanilla_gorilla13 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2010 Posts: 133 Location: Hialeah, Fl
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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haha, it felt to good to be true so i just wanted to make sure... _________________ '71 Super Beetle (sold) |
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 2684 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I replaced the pedal cluster on my '60 with a rebuilt unit from Scott at Pedalwerks. The difference was night and day. In my case I replaced it because of wear on the clutch shaft hook. _________________ 1960 beetle
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68IHscout Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2010 Posts: 3122 Location: santa ana ca
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
You'd be amazed to the amount of dirt and grit that gets into the cluster. I rebuilt mine a few years ago and wished I did it sooner. |
Hey Glenn , I want to rebuilt the one on my 74 sb , did you buy a kit ? Or what all did you use to get it done? Tanks.. |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Rebuild the cluster,
1 step further,
Whiles its out:
hook some clear rubber tubing over the clutch tube inside the frame where the pedal cluster WAS. (get it at home depot/lowes)
Then, at the rear remove the bowden tube, and spray cans of carb cleaner down the tube to clean the old grease/dirt etc out. followed by compressed air.
Repeat until clear carb cleaner runs out the end at the front. (brake cleaner works well too)
Then install a new bowden tube, with plenty of new grease!
Do the same for the throttle cable tube.
Make sure to grease your new cables VERY well!
You will be amazed at the crap that comes out of those tubes! _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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jlex Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2009 Posts: 2902 Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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When I redid mine 2 years ago I got a lot more pedal travel. I can remember having to adjust the pedal stops to place it in a more comfortable travel range (especially brake pedal). Seems the rust was limiting travel a lot before the overhaul. You may need to do some adjusting to make it feel right after the cleaning. _________________ jlex.
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Duncan, I like the idea of the clear tubing over the clutch tube, by the pedal cluster. I had a heck of a time installing a new clutch cable--and I have long fingers
Yep, we go for years pushing on that clutch pedal, thinking this is the way it's supposed to be. Then, you go to take the pedal cluster apart and re-grease everything, and it's so smooth that you could kick yourself for not doing it before.
I had to install a new clutch cable and clutch shaft. The shaft I got was one of those uniqueparts shafts with the bearing, instead of a hook. I greased that baby up, and pressing down on the shaft was so smooth, you think something is wrong at first.
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Donahoe wrote: |
I had to install a new clutch cable and clutch shaft. The shaft I got was one of those uniqueparts shafts with the bearing, instead of a hook. I greased that baby up, and pressing down on the shaft was so smooth, you think something is wrong at first.
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I got the same clutch shaft too, it's amazing! Really helps with re-installation as the cable can't slip off!
The clear tubing is for a drain, so you don't drain all that fluid and crap into the tunnel _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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Red 1966 Beetle Thread
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1971 Green Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
1971 Red Squareback (sold)
1966 Red Beetle |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11739 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I figured you installed a length of clear tubing that tightly fit the outside diameter of the clutch tube--like and inch or so--so that it would extend the clutch tube's length a bit and make it easier to thread the next clutch cable into the tube (but not get in the way of the cable's working business).
Hm? Maybe a new idea has been accidentally created--like Viagra .
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I've always used my left fingers to form a channel for the clutch cable end to guide into the hidden clutch tube, never had any trouble (medium size hands). _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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TheAmazingDave Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2013 Posts: 788 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I rebuilt my cluster this evening, and installed a new clutch hook shaft with the roller sleeve instead of the original hook.
Good thing, too. The original looks like it could have snapped any day now!
Pedals feel great now! My bushings were all in good shape, so I just cleaned them well and put fresh grease on everything. Night and day difference. Totally worth the effort. |
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