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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Any reason not to leave valve on propane tank open? Reply with quote

I've got a propex heater (only propane powered accessory) and I'm in the habit of always closing the valve on my propane tank when not using the heat. A lot of times I find myself too lazy to hop out and open it back up when want to turn on the heat to speed up the warming of the interior.

So, I'm wondering if there is any reason not to leave the valve on my propane tank open all the time?

What do you do?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: propane tank Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus Turn it off, it's a safety hazard to many things can go wrong. If God forbid you get into a wreck , hit on the side. you want the valve off, or the copper pipe could leak! You go Boom! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Propane on - no Boom

It did spring a leak though as there was no propane left 3 weeks later. My only reason for leaving propane on was to run the fridge. Definately safer to turn off though.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave it on if I can. I often have the fridge going all summer while daily driving. I get about three weeks of cool per tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn it off when your not using anything requiring propane.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I rolled my Adventurewagen, my stove was ripped completely out leaving a ripped copper tube. If my propane had been on, I probably wouldn't be writing this. Take it for for whatever it's worth...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the commonwealth of Virginia it is illegal to have your propane turned on while traveling on a public highway. There was an explosion at a truck stop, when an RV propane system blew, while re-fueling at the pump. It was not a pretty site, pieces of semi's, rv's and people everywhere. The pump island was totaled out.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should certainly turn it off at the main if you will be parked in a confined area such as a garage.

It is my recollection (October 31, 1963) that prorpane is most dangerous when a quantity can pool in a confined area prior to ignition.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep it off. I've seen folks fool with the burner knobs and leave them on. Kids do that too. If the propane was on you could have a tragic result. Yes it is a pain to have to turn it on each time you use it but the downside is potentially life threatening. Not to say there aren't plenty of instances when accidents did not rupture the propane line, but if it happened to you......
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like we need an innovation. how about a remote control propane valve/solenoid? There are such things in the fireplace realm. Someone crafty could borrow the parts/tech and make it happen. Sorry, I'm just good for ideas...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they have NC 12v propane valves on fleabay and likely your local HVAC supply house

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m5...;_from=R40

that's all I'll add in comment.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

12v solenoids to "turn on" propane delivery (like danfromsyr just linked) have been in use on yachts for a couple decades.. at least.
Check out WestMarine's site, Defender, or Jamestown Distribitors, too.

Pretty safe.. and so very easy to use. I am installing my propex and will have one in use in my system.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave my propane tank valve on ALL the time. I do not leave my stove knobs on. I have not rolled my van, and have not blown up.

otoh, the way to start a fire is to go to a propane station for a refil, and leave your fridge on while he pumps the Propane. (I know, you dont have a fridge, but imo, Van propane fires are caused by refilling the tank with the fridge pilot lit.)

And yes, those electric shutoffs look like a good option.

imo, if youre avoiding using the propex because you keep turning the valve off, dont keep turning the valve off.

You might also get Karl to weigh in on this, since he sells the Propex, Im sure he has an opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of both worlds - How about combining a solenoide with an inertia cutoff switch:

http://tinyurl.com/d7sqapm
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Any reason not to leave valve on propane tank open? Reply with quote

specialev wrote:
I find myself too lazy


Get out of the Westy and turn it back on, only takes a few seconds!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Any reason not to leave valve on propane tank open? Reply with quote

Timwhy wrote:

Get out of the Westy and turn it back on, only takes a few seconds!

No way I'm getting out of the van in the morning to turn the heater propane on. It's cold out there... If I'm o.k. sleeping with propane flowing and heater running, I'm o.k. with the valve being open in the driveway. Sheesh, what else can we get paranoid about. It is a RV with propane service, that is what it is made for. Not a big deal to leave the valve open. And I use the LP fridge while driving, so it doesn't get shut off then either, and if I recall correctly, it was acceptable to run the fridge on LP while driving. The valve is only closed occassionally, like when filling or taking a Ferry ride.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sheesh, what else can we get paranoid about.


Thats an open ended question.........
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Definitely when... Reply with quote

Turn off the valve and the fridge on propane when getting a refill. My propane people, who are VERY good, say, 'Instant Van-Be-Que.'

Shocked

No.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am almost positive that if you take a look at the Westfalia suppliment in with, and included your owner's manual that it is not suggested to run with the reefer on propane.
The position of the stainless vent on the side of the Van will scoop up plenty of air at speed and has a real good posibility of blowing that flame out in the ice box.

I believe it is suggested that the reefer run on 12 volts while enroute, or on the roll.


I for sure wouldn't have the tank open while on the highway.
Whatever goes on in back with kids, girlfriends--whoever,you have not one iota of control--

No Thanks.

I like rolling the bones, and living a little on the wild side, but not when it comes to something I won't know anything about until the kaboom.

Nyet.

Fire & explosions are out.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

? Any reason not to leave valve on propane tank open?

It depends....
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