accelerator cable guide tube through T1 fan shroud

[airschooled]

After digging through 50+ search threads, I could not find information on this.

I had a miserable time replacing my accelerator cable after an engine R&R this weekend, and I think I found out why. In the center of this picture, there is a metal guide tube for the cable that goes through the fan shroud and allows the cable to be pushed through to the carb linkage:

(pic stolen from desertbusman's gallery page)


Is this standard on any engine? An aftermarket part? After fighting with the cable through the firewall grommet trying to fish it blindly through the shroud, I stuck a bendy straw through my fan shroud and had a buddy push the cable through. (It worked GREAT!) But I'm worried that the cable is rubbing on the shroud and it may break soon. I can't image that everyone replaces their cable by getting lucky threading it through the black depths of the fan shroud… Is this a stock part, or does everybody else just let it rub?
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[Desertbusman]

[airschooled]

I'll put that drinking straw in place as a temporary guide, and I'll get to ordering the tube tomorrow! Thanks AGAIN

EDIT: after all my samba searching, a google search ended up with the prize:

http://www.vw-resource.com/accelerator_cable.html

Part number (according to AutohausAZ) shows: 043-129-893
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[Tom Powell]

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[Desertbusman]

The rigid tube thru the front tin and fan shroud is # 043-129-893 @ BAP, EMPI, Chirco and BusBoys. Some places list it as 111-129-894. Most places call it a Throttle Cable Tube and some call it an Accelerator Cable Guide.

You can see in my pic how I use a little fuel line clamp to hold it in position to keep it from walking to the rear. And I also put a spare rubber grommet on it to make doing the clamp a bit easier.

Now the Flex Cable Guide is more tricky to find. I don't know the P/N. All the suppliers show a picture of the ones used on bugs. And the bus one is identical except evidently a different length. You can get along without it for a while but keep it in mind. It so much better guides the cable into the front of the shroud cable tube, and keeps the greased cable free of dirt.
The ends look like this-

I lost mine, couldn't find info on a replacement, and asked the Samba's Karl. He knew what they are and sent me one. Then later found my lost one but you can't have it

Another tio- Once you get the guide tube you can gently bend it in a big curvature to best suit the exit in front of the carb to reduce wear. Liberally greas it. My hose clamp and the rubber washer hold it all the way forward so it doesn't move. Next time you talk to Rob & Dave tell them that they need new trans and engine mounts to keep their engine from flopping around
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[busdaddy]

Most hardware stores that have plumbing supplies sell a stiff milky white plastic tubing by the foot or short roll, it's similar to PEX but smaller diameter for icemakers, etc.. There's 2 sizes and I always get the wrong one when shopping by eyeball but one size is a perfect slip fit over the body tube and shroud guide (3/8" I think), it's slippery like Nylon and replaces the flex tube perfectly. Having the tube in place makes cable changes effortless as you just shove it in from the front and it magically emerges at the carb, no fising around over the transmission.
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[Tom Powell]

What has happened to the purity and sanctity of this forum?
DBM and busdaddy are suggesting hacks.
This is not in the Bentley.

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[bigbore]

[dirtkeeper]

[airschooled]

[SGKent]

113-129-893a
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[kreemoweet]

[bigbore]

they exist both my bus's ( 70 and 71) I have had over 20 of them and most all had them I believe the ones that didn't people removed them.
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[SGKent]

my 1971 had one of the bicycle cable type outer housings. It also had the tube that I put in a part number for. My 1977 has one but it is a type 4 engine. Took me 1 minute to find either early part in the fiche. What is up with y'all? New Year blues?????

Hey BigBore - really nice to see you posting again.

113-129-893a

211-721-551 A
https://evamclassic.com/products/view/gaskabel-bui...-721-551-A

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[dirtkeeper]

I was looking for the long one not the short one through the engine.

That second picture above is the item


Took a suggestion above and found some 1/2 “ by 3/8” ID tubing in my bin. fit perfect at the engine and body ends. Put a little wire on To stiffen it up . Went with 22” will slip in both ends tight.

[bigbore]

hi Steve ya still breathing despite myself just alot medical problems. still doing tranys I just finished two (at the same time) vanagon syncro's that paid nice so I can take some down time.
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