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allsidius
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| Blue Baron wrote: |
I agree. These cars were accident prone. |
That was probably a combination of several factors.
They were all prototypes, running on real skinny 4.75 or 5.00 16 diagonal tires of dubious quality. Even if the tires were "new" they could have been stored hot for years and lost all rubber flexibility.
They were real fast and probably a lot of fun to drive. 35 hp for a 600 kg car was pretty hot back then.
The brakes were still cable operated, designed for a 100 km/h car and crappy enough for that.
The drivers were mostly Nazi coryphees (in the case of both crashes), per definition void of empathy for others that may be hurt in a crash.
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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I had to look up the definition of coryphee: leader of a group of dancers, but not the principal or lead of the company. I can see how a coryphee would not be especially sympathetic towards the injury of the principal: a chance to move up!
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mandraks
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| I had to look up the definition of coryphee: leader of a group of dancers, but not the principal or lead of the company. I can see how a coryphee would not be especially sympathetic towards the injury of the principal: a chance to move up! |
Als Koryphäe bezeichnet man ferner eine Person, die durch außergewöhnliche Leistungen hervortritt: eine Autorität, einen Experten, eine Kapazität, einen Sachkundigen für ein bestimmtes Fachgebiet
a person showing extraordinary performances, an authority, and expert, someone knowledgeable in a particular area.
To call somebody a coryphee in german absolutely means the top guy.
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Rome
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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While looking up one of the drivers who was to drive one of the 3 Racers in the original Berlin-Rome race (Hans Klauser, who I actually met in the late 1970's   ) I came across this interesting article-
https://www.porscheroadandrace.com/porsche-type-64-a-star-is-born/
In the photo showing the rear of car #3 with the engine lid open, you can clearly see it does not have a single, center-mounted carburetor. Looking back in this thread, it's the same shot as the lower left at the bottom of page 1, with Mr. Mathe kneeling behind the car. Rather, it would most likely have a pair of small singles. Also note the tire sizes in the article. |
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allsidius
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| mandraks wrote: |
| 79SuperVert wrote: |
| I had to look up the definition of coryphee: leader of a group of dancers, but not the principal or lead of the company. I can see how a coryphee would not be especially sympathetic towards the injury of the principal: a chance to move up! |
Als Koryphäe bezeichnet man ferner eine Person, die durch außergewöhnliche Leistungen hervortritt: eine Autorität, einen Experten, eine Kapazität, einen Sachkundigen für ein bestimmtes Fachgebiet
a person showing extraordinary performances, an authority, and expert, someone knowledgeable in a particular area.
To call somebody a coryphee in german absolutely means the top guy. |
Sorry to bring up those criminals, I shall improve myself.
I used the word because it is common in my language to describe the brown nosed sycophants of the inner who enabled mr. H. I guess it is used as a metaphor in Norwegian.
My point was just that Ley and Lafferenz could do just about what they pleased, since H was just a phone call away.
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:34 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Mathé in action...... |
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| allsidius wrote: |
| To call somebody a coryphee in german absolutely means the top guy. |
Call me a complete word nerd, but I'm going to check my copy of the Compact Oxford English Dictionary when I get home to see what it says. 
Update: So as I understand it, yes, the "top guy" of the followers of the big cheese (i.e. Hitler). That is to say, the drivers were at the top of the pack of the SS.
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:00 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Picture of Michael Barbachs replica of the first car built 38/41. |
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finster
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| great photo above - how many replicas are there? |
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| finster wrote: |
| great photo above - how many replicas are there? |
There is also this replica/racecar recently finished in the US. |
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:56 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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This is a project going on in Holland I think.
The owner has posted here, maybe he can give us an update on the progress? |
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finster
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:36 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| there will soon be enough to get homologated and start a race series for them! |
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:12 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| there will soon be enough to get homologated and start a race series for them! |
That´s a thought.... |
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:18 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Otto Mathé in his RHD converted Typ64. |
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Wow, that's a tight fit!
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:59 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Early days....Note centre antenna, chrome headlight rims. |
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 6:52 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Passion....... |
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aa390392
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:21 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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Passion....... |
Could someone plz give more info on this pic? Who was the gentleman what year?
Thanx Thomas
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Axel Andersson
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:22 am Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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| Axel Andersson wrote: |
Passion....... |
Could someone plz give more info on this pic? Who was the gentleman what year?
Thanx Thomas |
It is Otto Mathé....... |
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usariemen
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: VW 60K10/Porsche type 64 - Pictures |
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It is Otto Mathé....... |
Yes, he owned and drove the car for MANY years.
He won races and was only able to use one arm!
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