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heymrpants Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2011 Posts: 37 Location: Fargo, ND
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I was 20 years old. There was a lot I had to learn yet (and still do according to my pre-edited post).
It had a non-vented aftermarket gas cap and the port for the church key was so stripped out I had to use a pocket knife to open the fuel door. My instinct was to run. |
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Sdmjake Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2012 Posts: 124 Location: Sandy Springs, GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:17 am Post subject: |
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JOGR, Thanks for the super FAST shipping of the Blazecut tube. Looks like I will be installing a fire suppression system this weekend! |
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MrBusCo Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 1561 Location: stoughton, WI
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Sdmjake wrote: |
JOGR, Thanks for the super FAST shipping of the Blazecut tube. Looks like I will be installing a fire suppression system this weekend! |
Thanks, PM sent _________________ Josh The Bus Guy formerly known as JOGR
BlazeCutUSA.com MrBusCo.com |
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Pinetops Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 2987
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I installed a Blazecut fire suppression system in the bus. It's a pretty nice looking item.
I have one note to mention for anyone who buys one. It's more rigid than I thought it would be so routing it is a little tricky. I wasn't going to route it the way I did but the blazecut bends pretty easily and the angle of a bend can't be too shap or you will get a crease. I made a loop and the degree of the loop wasn't extreme at all and the thing still creased. Hopefully that won't compromise the integrity of the unit. I guess I will eventually find out if so! The point is, be careful how you bend the blazecut tube.
I'm glad to have it in there, I took the bus for an hour long drive after installing and the peace of mind knowing there is a little more protection is nice. Always carry at least one fire extinguisher as well, I felt the need to say that in case it isn't obvious.
Excuse the poor photos:
Crease:
_________________ "A rolling bus gathers no rust." |
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:25 am Post subject: |
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I got the 12 footer, mine didn't kink, but yeah, be careful not to. Have had no issues and hope not to need it... (and that's black paint, not soot from a fire.. stupid prior owner...)
_________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
'11 Golf TDI 6-speed
'69 Bug
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matthew henricks Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2002 Posts: 1219 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I also installed the Blazecut system but still carry an extinguisher and installed a fuel reserve lever in my 65.
I wanted the pressure gauge visible so routed mine a little different but agree you have to balance getting coverage and not kinking the tube. No drilling.
I was worried about rub wear of the tube against the metal especially when you go front to back and have to cross the ribs supporting the luggage compartment. Will inspect them down the road to make sure i do not get a wear through.....
My Blazecut came with an electrical fuel cut-off too to help solve the gas flow problem. Did not use it but it's an option.
Happy customer.
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Scorcho Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2012 Posts: 386 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Does having the hose touch the metal on the top part of the engine bay, which gets kinda hot make the blazecut shoot out? Started putting mine in and wondered if I should avoid the hose touching the metal |
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Scorcho wrote: |
Does having the hose touch the metal on the top part of the engine bay, which gets kinda hot make the blazecut shoot out? Started putting mine in and wondered if I should avoid the hose touching the metal |
I've had mine probably a year now with no issues... If your engine bay gets hot enough to trigger it, there are most likely other issues at hand... _________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
'11 Golf TDI 6-speed
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12401
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:11 am Post subject: |
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The roof of my engine compartment was 122F when pulling into the Moxee show last Saturday, it was about 80F out.
Not sure how hot the hose pops at, but I would hope it was warmer than that.
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Clara wrote: |
The roof of my engine compartment was 122F when pulling into the Moxee show last Saturday, it was about 80F out.
Not sure how hot the hose pops at, but I would hope it was warmer than that.
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It definitely is. I've had a 12ft Blazecut tie-strapped to the engine compartment roof for over a year without issue, and daily drive my bus. We just recently had a 100+ heat wave too, no issues... _________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
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Enkiel Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2004 Posts: 2771 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Clara wrote: |
The roof of my engine compartment was 122F when pulling into the Moxee show last Saturday, it was about 80F out.
Not sure how hot the hose pops at, but I would hope it was warmer than that.
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i read from the seller on another forum that it was something around 270 F. So unless there's a fire, i doubt those would pop.
EDIT : from their pdf, its actually 120 Celcius
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0236/7951/files/Brochure_lowres_EN.pdf?914 |
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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Mine fit nicely without creasing. Maybe I got lucky.
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Robbyvm Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2015 Posts: 15 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Engine compartment fire control? |
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they are currently installing a system like this in my bus, should have been done earlier but prevention is the best cure right
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matt94gt Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2014 Posts: 245 Location: Victoria BC, Canada
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Hokie87 Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2010 Posts: 280 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Engine compartment fire control? |
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Mine is the 6 foot (actually 2 m) which is the same one as in this demo video...seems to work. Thankfully, I haven't had to test it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kswau1mGBE8 |
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matt94gt Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2014 Posts: 245 Location: Victoria BC, Canada
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Spezialist Banned
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 1941
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transportertalkman wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Harleyelf wrote: |
... some sort of fuel flow restriction pipe after it exits the fuel tank to prevent ten gallons of gas flowing onto a melted fuel filter and running down over the muffler in less than three minutes. |
Sort of off topic but clearly you have never tried to drain the tank through the tank outlet.
Whenever people start talking about fire suppression systems it makes me think of the urban legend of NASA trying to make a pen that writes in space. |
Best fire suppression is an aware and vigilant VW owner. Regular maintenance and the replacement of worn parts and aged fuel lines will insure a long and extinguisher-free life. Main thing is - don't over engineer! Your wasting precious time you could be driving. |
So true.
I've repaired many fired up VWs and every one was caused by a total disregard of maintenance. Maybe it's not the design, but the average bus owner. Friggin stoner hippies.
j/k.
Also, a fire is an easy way to increase value thru actual patina right? _________________
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Harleyelf wrote: |
... some sort of fuel flow restriction pipe after it exits the fuel tank to prevent ten gallons of gas flowing onto a melted fuel filter and running down over the muffler in less than three minutes. |
Sounds almost like a factory fuel tap?
Pulling the tap out half-way stops the flow of fuel. Works awesome when you need to disconnect any fuel lines as well. _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
"When the people are afraid of the government, that's tyranny. But when the government is afraid of the people, that's liberty."
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God."
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der58SC Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Oceanside, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Engine compartment fire control? |
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I am looking into getting one for my bus. I noticed everyone puts the tube behind the shroud and brings it forward. The video shows the entire thing in one spot which did a great job on putting out the fire.
Is the only reason why people run the tube behind the shroud is because of the fuel line? Also is everyone getting the 6 foot model?
Just curious. I hope I would never need it to be used. _________________ Like a midget at a urinal, I'm always on my toes
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Engine compartment fire control? |
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der58SC wrote: |
I am looking into getting one for my bus. I noticed everyone puts the tube behind the shroud and brings it forward. The video shows the entire thing in one spot which did a great job on putting out the fire.
Is the only reason why people run the tube behind the shroud is because of the fuel line? Also is everyone getting the 6 foot model?
Just curious. I hope I would never need it to be used. |
I got the 4 meter tube, I figure longer is better, has more stuff in it... Part of mine goes behind the fan shroud, part over the carb, and part at the rear of engine....
(Don't mind the black paint that a PO put on the engine bay roof, I have no idea why they would've done that...
_________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
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