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juniorvick
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 Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: air ride valves |
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| ok going in circles here and getting very very frustrating . i am trying to go back to air shocks in front but cant find a damn fitting to go from the shock output to a 1/2 in fitting... am i the only one to have 1/2 in lines on thier bugs??? anyone??? |
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Last one I played with was 7/16-20, but every mfg. has something different. Put up a make and model of the shock in question (Actual details are good), then you might have better luck.
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juniorvick
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| the shock is a Monroe MA785... And the shock fitting is a 7/16.. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just a 1/2" fitting isn't going to work.
You are going to have to machine the Monroe shocks with a 3/8" bung and fitting to 1/2".
I believe Airkewld used to sell some already modified...
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| juniorvick wrote: |
| the shock is a Monroe MA785... And the shock fitting is a 7/16.. |
Go to your local hydraulic hose and fitting store. Ask for a female #4 ORB x something...what ever they have. Most likely it will be male pipe thread, maybe 1/8"? Are you running 1/2
tubing? Get a Parker 66PL-8-4 if the fitting ends up being 1/4"MP, or a 66PL-8-2 if it's 1/8" MP....if that 8-2 exists. It's an oddball for sure. If the PL (Presto-lock) fittings isn't available, you can ask for a PMT series, which is just the DOT air brake version. Get a thread pitch gauge on that fitting so you know for sure what you actually have. If you don't have access to one, the hyd. shops should have one you can use if they're worth their salt. The combo of these two fittings should get you there. If not, you'll have to make one.
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Is the fitting onthe air shock flared???
PICTURES ARE A GOOD THING
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emanchester
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The shock fitting isn't flared but it fits nicely and seals good. |
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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So it probably has an inverted type chamfer, set up for a compression style ferrule. It ain't right, but apparently you're making it work.
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emanchester
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you're right, the shock fitting has an inverted chamfer for an o-ring to fit in. The fittings that come with the shocks have a compression like nut that compresses a little 1/8 tube between an o-ring. |
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juniorvick
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ill take a picture of the air shock... i did go to a hydroulic place and they couldnt find anything to hood up directly to the air shock stem... i dont wanna use that thin hose that comes with the shocks. ... |
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Hotrodvw
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Ehh no. Are you going to seal it bff cramming two metal surfaces together? Jic flare and Compression chamfer are not compatible to seal.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I forgot to say I welded mine so it wouldnt leak air |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| jcannut21 wrote: |
| I forgot to say I welded mine so it wouldnt leak air |
The 6404-2-4 that I mentioned is basically the same fitting, with out the swivel. You posted a 6506-2-4.....female JIC swivel x 1/8" fem npt.....no worky, unless you weld it LOL.
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lowdown55
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: fitting |
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go to lowes, they will have all the compression fittings you need,i use to run front air ride shocks (monroe)with 3/8 inch air line .........  |
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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False. This is not Typical compression fitting. No hardware store will carry what you need.
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Hotrodvw
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False. This is not Typical compression fitting. No hardware store will carry what you need.
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juniorvick
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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just picked some up today ... gonna try this out as soon as i get home |
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