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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: 70 camper rust repair Reply with quote

Bill dropped his 70 off for rust repairs and I got a start on it today. Its got a lot of the normal rust and quite a few dents that need to be fixed. I didn't get a chance to take a pic of the whole bus but will before I finish. Today I started to cut up the left dogleg and floor.
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Looks like a small fender bender that previous owner tried to repair.
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Some of the normal rust.
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The floor I got cleaned up and removed in one piece to use as a template for the new panel.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once the floor was removed I started to cut out the rust in the wheel well.
I used some 1/2" tape to mark my cut line just above the rust.
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Once the piece was removed I used it as a template to make a new panel from 20 gauge metal. I first made a few marks where the shape needs to be and used some tubing to roll the metal over.
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I traced the rusted piece and used the 1/2" tape to transfer the lip that holds the floor.
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I don't have a bead roll with a tipping die at home so out comes the duckbills.
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I used my small duckbills around the rolled areas. Doing this tends to flatten out the shape so a little shaping with the shrinker/stretcher is needed.
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Again not having a beadroll to make the steps on the end I had to resort to hand tools. I saw this chisel trick on a metal shaping site and it worked great. Make sure your chisel is blunt and take your time working both sides. A little smoothing with the hammer and dolly and the panel is ready for fitting.
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After some fitting the panel is ready to weld. I made some reference marks before cutting to get the height right and double checked with the straight edge.
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Taking my time welding and grinding a couple times during the welding for a rust free wheel well ready for the floor.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.

i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....

don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...

again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.

i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....

don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...

again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right


Skills its not about being a "rockstar" its about giving back to a great community the only way I know how and that's repairing rust. I have taken from this site for many years and learned a lot so posting some pics and a few tricks I have learned over the years is just a small thank you to all who share there knowledge. This includes you so thanks for all you and many others do for v-dubs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If EVERYONE used the search functions, got there info from the Bently, and stopped with 1 rust repair post...... There would be no more posting on the samba.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it up! Love the tips and creative metal work.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to following this thread as I did the previous rust repair thread.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looking forward to following this thread as I did the previous rust repair thread.


Me too! Please keep the pics and info coming!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for starting another thread. Will be following this one closely as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful beautiful beautiful welding.

By comparison, I weep at the stuff I'm subjecting my poor bus to. Crying or Very sad Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...


This is true for everyone. Makes you move up to the next level, which is to do good work for the intrinsic satisfaction, not the accolades.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amskeptic wrote:
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looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...


This is true for everyone. Makes you move up to the next level, which is to do good work for the intrinsic satisfaction, not the accolades.
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If that actually happened then there really would be any posting after awhile Laughing


Very nice work mr poster!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.

i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....

don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...

again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right


Skills its not about being a "rockstar" its about giving back to a great community the only way I know how and that's repairing rust. I have taken from this site for many years and learned a lot so posting some pics and a few tricks I have learned over the years is just a small thank you to all who share there knowledge. This includes you so thanks for all you and many others do for v-dubs.


Right on bus buddies. Thank you all VERY MUCH! One can never get enough education from the Genius Masters. We can always learn MORE. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have got to get me a shrinker/stretcher and learn how to use it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have got to get me a shrinker/stretcher and learn how to use it.


Barefoot here is the set I have from eastwood. I made my own adjustable stand on wheels. There is lots of info on the web on how to use them as they can come in handy.

http://www.eastwood.com/shrinker-stretcher-combo-set-two-bodiestwo-jaws.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info. Would love to be able to learn how to create some of the pieces you are doing. I have some repairs in the exact same location.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed the dogleg to make easy access to the b-pillar inner panel and splash area today. The inner b-pillar was pretty crusty so out comes the cut off wheel.
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I made a nice template on a previous bus to make things quicker and it fits pretty good. I fit the panel behind the b-pillar and mark it for the step.
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Once marked I used 1/4" tape to transfer the line over.
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One of the few times I use my steppers.
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I didn't get it welded in but prepped the areas for welding. I also thought I would pass on my double sided roloc I use to clean the lip of the b-pillar.
I like to take two 3" rolocs and remove the plastic thread from one and drill a hole.
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The hole needs to be just big enough to fit over the 2nd plastic thread.
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A 2" rubber roloc pad is needed to use this but works nice for those blind lips.

I also started to make the floor panel I cut out earlier and should be ready to start putting it back together in the next couple days.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forgive my metal working ignorance but what is at the top of the panel you made shown here? Looks like something to hold up the panel...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a Cleco - a small spring-loaded clamp.

http://www.righttoolusa.com/p/25-Pc-1-8-Cleco-Fast...PAodsngAVQ

Beautiful work, by the way. I really enjoy watching how others tackle these repairs.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for taking the time to post this. It's very helpful to see the various stages of this process. And I just plain love to see a bus rehabilitated. You are doing Dog's work. Wink
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