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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Your last thread was hugely helpful with a couple parts of my restoration! I took your welding tips to heart and actually saw a huge improvement in my welds.
I'm going to be tackling my dogleg next week, any tips for removing it? It doesn't look like its spot welded on along the sides in your pic, but those edges don't look like you sliced them... I've been staring at it trying to figure out where to get in with my angle grinder. |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Thrasher22 wrote: |
Your last thread was hugely helpful with a couple parts of my restoration! I took your welding tips to heart and actually saw a huge improvement in my welds.
I'm going to be tackling my dogleg next week, any tips for removing it? It doesn't look like its spot welded on along the sides in your pic, but those edges don't look like you sliced them... I've been staring at it trying to figure out where to get in with my angle grinder. |
Thrasher I started at the b-pillar and ran vertical leaving the lip to clean up after. I then ran along the wheel well staying as close as possible till I hit the a-post. At the a-post I just cut straight in to get the biggest chunk out of the way. I left the piece the floor sits on till I put the floor back in to set my height. The fun part comes removing the remaining lips as you will have grinding dust everywhere. I like to use a full face filter like the one here
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/PPESaf...9&rt=d
I will also where a welding beanie to keep sparks out of whats left of my hair. Hope this helps and good luck. |
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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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wrstp wrote: |
Thrasher I started at the b-pillar and ran vertical leaving the lip to clean up after. I then ran along the wheel well staying as close as possible till I hit the a-post. At the a-post I just cut straight in to get the biggest chunk out of the way. I left the piece the floor sits on till I put the floor back in to set my height. The fun part comes removing the remaining lips as you will have grinding dust everywhere. I like to use a full face filter like the one here
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/PPESaf...9&rt=d
I will also where a welding beanie to keep sparks out of whats left of my hair. Hope this helps and good luck. |
That's what I was thinking, but you lines looked so clean I was thinking I'd missed something. That does help, thanks! And I always use a full face mask when I'm grinding |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Wrstp
Im curious if you are going to make the floor patch that has the big indention in it. If so how will go about making the indention. I have to make some of the exact same repairs.
Thanks _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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barefootwestie wrote: |
Wrstp
Im curious if you are going to make the floor patch that has the big indention in it. If so how will go about making the indention. I have to make some of the exact same repairs.
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In the front? He did in the last thread he posted, but you can also just buy them from Klassicfab. |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I must have missed it in the other thread. I ve been confused by klassicfab as far as what they do make and dont make. Plus I only a small section. Thanks for the input though. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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Hvost2000 Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2012 Posts: 49 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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CoastalAirCooledVW Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2012 Posts: 1882 Location: Mckinleyville, CA (Humboldt County)
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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barefootwestie wrote: |
I must have missed it in the other thread. I ve been confused by klassicfab as far as what they do make and dont make. Plus I only a small section. Thanks for the input though. |
Gerson's panels seem to develop faster than his website. Send him a PM and he will let you know he does or doesn't make something and the price. But if you don't like the price then don't say anything because some cheap bay window owners have scared him away in the past . _________________ 1966 Velvet Green Standard |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I've checked with Gerson on some items and he had said he wasn't making them anymore and had seen other folks say that he had stopped production of some of the later bay items due to people not wanting to spend the money. I hate that because I have not had good success with the cheaper made products. You spend more time trying to make them fit than the savings is worth.
But I do understand his side as he is in the business to make money and if product is not selling than no need in making it. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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larryducas Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2011 Posts: 233 Location: Fallbrook, CA
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....
don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...
again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right |
I am glad for any and ALL the posts on rust repair. I need the inspiration, up to now, I have only done bondo work.
I have a welder and look forward to the courage to use it someday.
It looks like it takes lots of time to aquire the metal shaping and welding skills needed. you guys make it look easy, but I know its not.
keep up the inspiration and don't get discouraged! _________________ 71 deluxe, 1968 type 1 engine rebuilt, 009 distributor, pertronix module, Empi 38 EPC / DGES carb |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I got the inner b-post panel prepped and ready to weld in. I dilled a couple extra 1/8" holes to pull the panel out with klecko's while welding.
After a little grinding all that's needed is some seam sealer.
I also realized that Bill had a nice funky green floor panel for me to use so no need to make the front floor panels.
Gotta love these Gerson panels as they fit so nice.
A little bit of trimming and prep before welding in.
While the paint dries I moved onto the splash area and looks like some of the top hat will need repair.
I like to have a couple areas going so when the I wait for welds to cool I have something to do so while I weld in the floor I will continue on the splash repair. |
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hoagy86 Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2012 Posts: 366 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: |
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love watching good work |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm jealous. I have GOT to find some time. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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Roman Carter Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2010 Posts: 1 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Any more progress? |
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ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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craftsmanship is not dead...seeing work like this confirms my decision NOT to attempt my own body work. i'd rather pay someone who really knows what they're doing. and no, i dont mind paying good money for good work. _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
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wrstp Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Roman Carter wrote: |
Any more progress? |
Sorry bout the silence I have some pics just haven't found the time to post. I have a long weekend coming up so should get a good amount finished up and posted. Thanks for following. |
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crownline Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2010 Posts: 592 Location: Northwoods of WI
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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wrstp
Do you use weldable primer for the area's that are going to be behind and unable to paint? Sorry if this has been asked already. _________________ 1972 Bus 1700 cc Single Carb. But not a progressive.
Barelymuvin
Wish I still had the ones I got rid of.
"It"s got some dings and dents and neither of us is going to SEMA."(Update, I went to SEMA in 2019 but the Bus stayed home)
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wrstp Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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crownline wrote: |
wrstp
Do you use weldable primer for the area's that are going to be behind and unable to paint? Sorry if this has been asked already. |
Crownline I use 3m's weldable primer. |
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wrstp Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well I got the right front floor panel welded in and of course the funky green metal fit real nice. The only areas I had to work a little was where the indentions meet. The gerson is not as deep as the stock but with a little heat from the tacks the 2 pieces come together nice.
Well with the next panel I wasn't so lucky so I began by cutting it apart. Not real sure what's going on with these panels but I have found if you cut them apart and piece them back together they can be saved.
Once apart I started fitting each piece and found the biggest issue is the inner is to short.
The upper part of the inner is very usable so I cut the lower just before the bolt holes. I took some reference measurements from the original holes before removing. I kept the cut in a straight part of the panel to make it easier to add a piece later.
I also started fitting the upper panel and kleckoed it in place. Again not a bad fit.
The outer needed some reshaping at the b-post but kleckoed in place it fits nice.
Now all I have to do is weld them back together. I plan on eliminating the nasty seam where the seal hits by butt welding the 2 pieces. I will also prep and paint the panels before final welding. |
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zuggbug Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2008 Posts: 3479 Location: Anderson SC
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
58 15 window
56 westy |
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