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danfromsyr
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the low Ox cut off is, is that the pilot flame is just barely able to touch the thermo couple. so when the Ox is too low the flame will flicker more and the sensative Thermocouple will disengage the propane supply.

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I have a PROBLEM with a lo-ox sw made in china!!


I have a problem with a 1sqft hot surface/flame to burn pillows, clothes, and dog tails.. we run a propane furnace/heater..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a buddy heater. I bought it before a winter trip to Utah. I we camped north of Vegas and it was in the 20's. Also when we got to Utah and it was 1 degree outside, I would run our to the van and start the engine and the buddy heater. By the time the engine was warming up enough to start putting our a little heat from the heater, the van was warm and ready for my wife and three year old to come out and be comfortable. It is instant heat and a lot of it. I love mine. Ive used it on two camping trips since then.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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<snip>... I found it mounted nicely on straps facing rearward off the front passenger seat. I was planning a much sturdier mount up high above the left rear cargo window but never did. ...<snip>... DougM


Can we see a pic of how you mounted it? I usinualy put my front table in and set it on top of that. The only thing that concerns me is a pillow or blanket falling off of the top bunk and landing on the heater... Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a PROBLEM with a lo-ox sw made in china!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have a Little Buddy Heater. Use it mostly to take the chill out on those late Fall, and Early Spring Campouts. Usually only use it to warm the Van before snuggling in, and in the morning. But have used it over nite. I have yet to get much over 7 hrs off of the single cylinder with the heater on low..
I place my heater between the two front seats facing towards the rear benchseat. I use a small computer pancake fan rigged to a contractor pinch clamp, simular to a pototato chip Bag clamp but it's metal and stronger. I clamp the fan to the top handle of the little Buddy and let the low amp fan move the heat, the fan is wired to a power port plug and it plugs into my dash.

I also resolved the problem of running out of propane in two ways..
1.. is I picked up a long extention propane hose and run the heater off of a larger camp propane bottle that I place outside the door and the hose into the van to the heater. I can close the door and it works great.

2nd way. I had replaced my Vans propane tank and when I did I installed the extend-a-stay adapter. When I did so I used one of the capped off ports to install a elbow and copper tubbing into the Van. I installed and fastened a propane fitting to that copper line and now have a Propane Port in the bottom of my sink closet that I can simply connect my Little Buddy to or other propane items if needed.. Comes in handy, but wasn't the easiest install due to the tight'ness of adding the Extend-a-stay adapter.

I also bought a Propex heater several months ago just haven't gotten around to installing it yet, kind of question myself now why, as the little Buddy was far less expensive, did the job and is verstile for other uses.

Reguardless the little Buddy does come in handy for in and out of Van usage.

Plus if you want one this is the time of year to buy one because winter stuff will be marked down. I picked my up about 2 years ago at the end of winter for like $59.00 at a clearence sale..

Reguardless what you use, Be safe, and Good Luck
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Mr Heater Buddy and it works great at heating up the Westy. The only thing I don't like
about it is the Fumes that it gives off. Even with the windows cracked or open you will still be able
to smell it. We have used it outside under the BD EZ Awning with the side walls attached. It heated
up that space with no problem or noticeable smell.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I camped with the little buddy over the weekend and it worked phenomenal. I had it on the low setting and had to turn it off after 10 minutes because it was too warm!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it sounds like this is what I am looking for. I picked one up on CL for $20, with a tank. I plan on using it on camping trips in the fall and will use it before bed and probably in the morning while I make coffee. We have some nice bags to keep the chill off while we sleep so it wont be used during the night. It is mainly for in the morning for when the kids get up and need to change.

He also had the "big buddy" heater for $50.
http://bend.craigslist.org/spo/3594270174.html

I felt that was too much for the van. Good price though.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Little Buddy (LB) AND a Propex. I use the Propex inside the van at night, but light the LB outside the door like a fireplace when sitting out in the early evening. Plenty of safety features, but too much condensation for inside the van. Still great to have on board.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've love the Lil Buddy. Pros are small size, catalytic heating and decent BTUs. Cons are condensation, no fan (which means no circulation) and a decent thirst for propane.

In our bus it's been used for the time between stopping (end of day) and sleeping. It's off at night as we tent the lower bed which allows us to preserve as much heat as possible.

A small battery powered fan makes a HUGE different in apparent comfort. Otherwise the heat pools primarily around the heater.

If you find one on sale it's worth it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a lil buddy and have used it in temps down to about 30. The condensation is the worst part. My windshield condensed so much that it dripped down the corner of the dash onto the fuse panel and shorted out the rad fan.

The heater did keep me very warm. We would run it for a few hours before bed and then shut it off to sleep. I don't like putting my life in the hands of a small appliance, though with a window cracked it would have probably been fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..but I have heard way too many true stories about people waking up dead (!) because of CO poisoning.....


- word....that's why I don't leave ours on - I hate waking up dead and/ or on fire. And despite the supposed low CO2 switch, do you really want to put your life in the hands of a small appliance?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had the lil buddy in the westfalia for about four years. It is small and has a small footprint. I stow it behind the passenger seat and it rides nicely there. I sleep in different marinas in the NW year round for work. I generally sleep up top and it keeps it a very comfortable temperature. One bottle seems to last me between 4-7 hours but I really like heat and keep it on.

The condensation is bothering me. I crack a couple of windows and partiality open a canvas window. Doing this helps with the condensation but not enough. Things are damp in the morning and the inside of the windows are fogged and dripping. Thinking about that moisture accumulating behind the panels gives me stress so I bought a propex about a year ago. It is still in the box, super excited to get the time to install it.

The other drawbacks for me are I slightly worry about a pillow falling off the top bunk and landing close enough to it to catch fire while I am sleeping. Also since I crack the windows if I do get 8 hours of sleep the propane runs out at some point during the night so the inside temperature is now the same as outside. It sure is nice though to put another botttle in and start it up, warms things up quickly.

On New Years this year my wife and I camped at the beach to dig razor clams. It was below 32 degrees out. The propane had run out during the night and the moisture had frozen, all the windows were iced up on the inside. The ice thawed on the drive home and I think so much moisture ran behind the panels or dash that a wire shorted. As there was a very strong burnt wire smell.

I hope to not need to use the lil buddy in the westfalia again. I definitely appreciate it though and it will be utilized in our boat
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the above (crack window/never while sleeping).

It's the perfect size & rating for the van, but we rarely leave it on
for very long at a time. Turn it on & off as necessary - just turn it
to pilot in between & act as your own thermostat. Leave it on pilot
over night & it adds a bit of heat & is ready to go at the flip of the
switch when you're almost ready to climb out of your 20* bag.

Nice unit - just be reasonable & careful!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a Coleman Blackcat which works great. We never leave it on all night, though. It may be the worried mother in me, but I have heard way too many true stories about people waking up dead (!) because of CO poisoning. Also, I would be worried about the risk of fire from a pillow or something falling on it.
When it's cold out I just fire it up for 10 minutes or so to heat up the van before we snuggle into our sleeping bags.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep one under the bench seat for cool evenings and mornings when I need some additional motivation to get out of my sleeping bag. It's handy for fall temps and even around freezing, but I wouldn't rely on it as a primary source of warmth. Get a good sleeping bag and layer up first. This is more a comfort/ convenience item for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We only used the little buddy a few times, but it was nice to take the chill off between dinner and bedtime. And it fits under the back seat. Silent and no smell.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Mr Buddy Big Buddy and it had two key advantage that none of the other brands I found had. One, it holds 2 one pound canisters and can run for 11 hours on low. So that means overnight even on a long winter night up north here where the sun sets at 5pm and rises more than 12 hours later. Two, it has a small fan run off a couple batteries which is just enough to nicely move the warm air around the van. With it off, the van gets remarkably stratified with the warm air around the ceiling and you can literally lower your hand off the bunk into a "pool" of cold air at the floor. The fan moves it around and is a nice sound to sleep to.

On the down side, it is larger. I found it mounted nicely on straps facing rearward off the front passenger seat. I was planning a much sturdier mount up high above the left rear cargo window but never did.

Anyhow, having the ability to muster overpowering and authoritative heat when you've just climbed shivering and wet into the vehicle from a snowshoe run or similar was worth the slight extra size and extra cost. One of those products that makes you rub your hands together and say "Aaaah, that thing is SO worth it...."

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Mr Heater when I camp at 30F or below. I never use it when I sleep and I use a maccoupler to refill my propane bottle from a 20lb tank.

http://www.walmart.com/tp/mr-heater

http://maccoupler.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search "heater buddy"

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443487&highlight=heater+buddy


http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=494985&highlight=heater+buddy

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I do know that on low a 1lb bottle will not last through the night.
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