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canonvanagon Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2017 Posts: 10 Location: Canon City, CO
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:27 am Post subject: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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My hall sensor connector on the Distributor broke off on my van. I can wiggle the wires and it will kill the engine. I was looking at new Distributors and I see that JP makes one at a 1/4 of the price of the Bosch. Is there any reason to buy one over the other?
Thanks _________________ 1987 2WD Vanagon Tintop 93 ej22 |
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heidi85ho Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2009 Posts: 298 Location: Williamsburg,Virginia
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hbmbguy Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2014 Posts: 39 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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The JP distributor is cheaper than the Hall sender that you just linked to. Anyone have experience with it? _________________ 1987 Westy |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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JP?
Link? _________________ Glenn
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9776 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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djkeev wrote: |
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for.......... |
Bingo! I mean for $60 dollars, it has to be a great distributor, right?!?!
That new distributor could also be used in place of this above. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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djkeev wrote: |
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for.......... |
Not always but you always pay for what you get.
If you can't afford to do it right the first time, how are you going to afford to fix it when it breaks? _________________ Glenn
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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djkeev wrote: |
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for.......... |
Your original Hall unit is what? thirty years old at this point. Dang good service I would say, replace it with the best you can and move on, one tow will cost you many times the difference between the Bosch and the JP. |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1882 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:37 am Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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wildthings,
your reasoning is exactly the same as mine.
Buy the best part available and move on, nothing like doing the job twice, and maybe at a less convenient time.
Maybe when some economical part fails you are away from home, pay for a tow, pay a mechanic anywhere from $80 to $100 an hour to replace your defective part, and be at the mercy of what is available to him at the time, maybe another cheap low quality part! In addition, wherever your break down occurs, you may not have a mechanic with Vanagon experience, these are special animals, experience goes a long way. |
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hbmbguy Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2014 Posts: 39 Location: Henderson, NV
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13385 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:48 am Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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JP Groups after market parts for VW's that I've had exposure to were poor fitting and poorly made. They are one of the last companies making type 1 exhausts for buses and bugs. There are many threads about poor fitting issues.
Again, at that price point, I'd say that distributor was made in China and wouldn't hold a candle to the original quality Bosch units that were installed back in the day.
I find it sad that there are no 'new' distributors made for VW bugs or buses that are not garbage. There's clearly a market or need for them. However, I don't think manufactures are willing to make them due to VW owners cheapness. The vast majority of VW owners will always buy the $50 dollar Chinese special and tolerate it's poor performance vs. a company that steps up and reproduces a quality distributor in the same league as Bosch but with a price point above $250. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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wallanoise Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2008 Posts: 96 Location: Crumsville
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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Can you even find a Bosch distributor these days? If JP is the only option, and affordable, why not give it a shot? It's better than having no distributor, right? |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6316 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6379 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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I stay OEM all the way... Ah, until now, maybe... but am looking hard at a Pertronix and having mine rebuilt as backup/potential primary:
https://www.carid.com/pertronix/flame-thrower-vw-s...gJ2SPD_BwE _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12103 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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When I had the same problem with the Hall connector breaking off, I just went to the wrecking yard and bought a distributor from an early '90's Volvo for $8. I swapped over the Hall plate and it worked just fine. Most Euro rigs from that era used the same Bosch engine management bits. Aftermarket distributors are junk. I've taken them apart and there's no there there--they don't even use proper bronze shaft bushings and what they do use is blocked off from any lubrication, so they wear prematurely and the rotor wobbles around. Bad juju _________________ Casey--
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6379 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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I personally think "all others are junk" is never a good philosophy. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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E1 wrote: |
I personally think "all others are junk" is never a good philosophy. |
That's the state of the VW aftermarket industry.
We accept junk so that's what we get. We have no one to blame but ourselves. _________________ Glenn
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6379 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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Like I said, OEM is all we've bought to date.
But I agree with the basis of your "we." I personally think our money is the only vote we have left and why I refer the good guys and make no secrets of the rest. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors |
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E1 wrote: |
Like I said, OEM is all we've bought to date.
But I agree with the basis of your "we." I personally think our money is the only vote we have left and why I refer the good guys and make no secrets of the rest. |
_________________ Glenn
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