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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

My hall sensor connector on the Distributor broke off on my van. I can wiggle the wires and it will kill the engine. I was looking at new Distributors and I see that JP makes one at a 1/4 of the price of the Bosch. Is there any reason to buy one over the other?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: JP vs Bosch Reply with quote

Possible solution without buying distributor.
http://www.van-cafe.com/distributor-halls-unit-c917
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

The JP distributor is cheaper than the Hall sender that you just linked to. Anyone have experience with it?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

JP?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

Possibly this?

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/JP-025905237X
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

I would be wary, extremely low priced items are often made from inferior components and not to the close tolerances a precision item like this requires.
Ask yourself where they cut corners to hit this price point.
Yes, you can find amazing deals on quality items when you stumble upon close out sales and similar.

We are suffering a huge quality problem with new parts sold today. Why? Because the consumer is shopping for lowest price......period!!!
Quality often isn't even a thought, it is "How Much $$ ".


You often get EXACTLY what you pay for.......... shop carefully for you may end up not wanting what you get.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for..........


Bingo! I mean for $60 dollars, it has to be a great distributor, right?!?! Laughing


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That new distributor could also be used in place of this above. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for..........

Not always but you always pay for what you get.

If you can't afford to do it right the first time, how are you going to afford to fix it when it breaks?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
You often get EXACTLY what you pay for..........


Your original Hall unit is what? thirty years old at this point. Dang good service I would say, replace it with the best you can and move on, one tow will cost you many times the difference between the Bosch and the JP.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

wildthings,
your reasoning is exactly the same as mine.
Buy the best part available and move on, nothing like doing the job twice, and maybe at a less convenient time.
Maybe when some economical part fails you are away from home, pay for a tow, pay a mechanic anywhere from $80 to $100 an hour to replace your defective part, and be at the mercy of what is available to him at the time, maybe another cheap low quality part! In addition, wherever your break down occurs, you may not have a mechanic with Vanagon experience, these are special animals, experience goes a long way.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

I'm definitely wary of inexpensive parts, I was looking at both vanagain:

https://www.vanagain.com/shop/ignition-distributor-025905205ag/

and Van Cafe:

http://www.van-cafe.com/new-aftermarket-2.1ltr-distributor

Since they are reputable suppliers I was wondering if people had experience with that dizzy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

hbmbguy wrote:
I'm definitely wary of inexpensive parts, I was looking at both vanagain:

https://www.vanagain.com/shop/ignition-distributor-025905205ag/

and Van Cafe:

http://www.van-cafe.com/new-aftermarket-2.1ltr-distributor

Since they are reputable suppliers I was wondering if people had experience with that dizzy.


JP Groups after market parts for VW's that I've had exposure to were poor fitting and poorly made. They are one of the last companies making type 1 exhausts for buses and bugs. There are many threads about poor fitting issues.

Again, at that price point, I'd say that distributor was made in China and wouldn't hold a candle to the original quality Bosch units that were installed back in the day.

I find it sad that there are no 'new' distributors made for VW bugs or buses that are not garbage. There's clearly a market or need for them. However, I don't think manufactures are willing to make them due to VW owners cheapness. The vast majority of VW owners will always buy the $50 dollar Chinese special and tolerate it's poor performance vs. a company that steps up and reproduces a quality distributor in the same league as Bosch but with a price point above $250.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

Can you even find a Bosch distributor these days? If JP is the only option, and affordable, why not give it a shot? It's better than having no distributor, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

JP group/Danske is mostly junk. Avoid.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

I stay OEM all the way... Ah, until now, maybe... but am looking hard at a Pertronix and having mine rebuilt as backup/potential primary:
https://www.carid.com/pertronix/flame-thrower-vw-s...gJ2SPD_BwE
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

When I had the same problem with the Hall connector breaking off, I just went to the wrecking yard and bought a distributor from an early '90's Volvo for $8. I swapped over the Hall plate and it worked just fine. Most Euro rigs from that era used the same Bosch engine management bits. Aftermarket distributors are junk. I've taken them apart and there's no there there--they don't even use proper bronze shaft bushings and what they do use is blocked off from any lubrication, so they wear prematurely and the rotor wobbles around. Bad juju
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

I personally think "all others are junk" is never a good philosophy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

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I personally think "all others are junk" is never a good philosophy.

That's the state of the VW aftermarket industry.

We accept junk so that's what we get. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

Like I said, OEM is all we've bought to date.

But I agree with the basis of your "we." I personally think our money is the only vote we have left and why I refer the good guys and make no secrets of the rest.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: JP vs. Bosch distributors Reply with quote

E1 wrote:
Like I said, OEM is all we've bought to date.

But I agree with the basis of your "we." I personally think our money is the only vote we have left and why I refer the good guys and make no secrets of the rest.


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