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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:13 am    Post subject: Increased seating capacity options / ideas Reply with quote

Greetings, I am looking for some ideas on ways to increase the seating capacity in my vanagon. Primarily the area behind the front passenger seat. I am having a hard time coming up with anything that jives with the plastic molded interior. My initial thought was finding another matching jump seat, this proved to be quite expensive and hard to find. Now I need to get creative... I know you guys have some great ideas, pictures will help a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love your interior. The seat cover inserts and hardwood looks fantastic! Guess this really doesnt help.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A rear facing fold up jump seat covered to match your very nice seats would be an option.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ Like this:
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From here (or look through your local pick-n-pull):
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1424624

It's removable, but you'll also need the mounting bracket to attach to the battery box. Good looking rig you've got!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. Having read through the threads pertaining to the jump seat pictured, not sure if I am up to the task of making that work (welding/cutting). Although not entirely out of the picture if I could actually get some hands on time with one to see what it takes. I guess, (sight, un-touched) I am looking for something that I can just bolt or lag in. From what I understand that seat requires some engineering to be done right. I have scoured my local scrap yard, and searched the samba classifieds in hopes of ideas or something that can be used. There have been some creative ideas in the bay forum which I did use to to expand the seating in my bay. I am pretty handy with wood and upholstery, so home made that looks the part would not be out. I am having a hard time visualizing what would fit with the current modern plastic interior. I am just looking for examples and ideas to make a more educated approach. I will probably just have to pony up and spend the bread on a matching one to completely satisfy my obsessive brain. That also is a tough one.
Here is the bay expanded seating:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seat belts, and head restraints?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

you could change your front layout to a 6o/40 seat like a doka. then you can get three up front.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not have to weld or cut anything to install a stock jumpseat in my Westy. Drill 4 holes for the mounting bracket on the passenger side pedestal and 2 countersink holes down to the metal on the floor for the JB Welded nuts to anchor the legs, and it was done. Alignment and measuring took all the time but that would be true, regardless. Your custom upholstery looks good.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's so pretty! I love the interior and the flooring. Will you have the expanded jump/bench seat with the same stitching? She sure is gorgeous all around!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is something to look at....

http://campervanculture.com/2012/10/vw-1989-syncro-built-in-south-africa/

If you are trying to maximize passenger carrying capacity, you should look at acquiring a non camper van. You can easily seat 6 passengers, and increase to seven if you could ever locate a 3 person middle seat. Might be easier to extend the middle seat tracks and build your own......

Check out this thread...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=447830

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree to the stock vanagon jumpseat, but you may be able to make one in wood similiar to your DS jumpseat.
my ASI Riviera vanagon conversion came with a pass side rear facing seat that was made from 3/4" ply.

you can see it here in the ASI brochure to get an idea.

http://wetwesties2.tripod.com/1983_asi_brochure.html
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the compliments and ideas!
I have seen that thread in my late night searches for ideas and love the look of the matching seats. Like he also mentioned; very hard to find for a reasonable price if at all.
That South Africa Syncro is unique, seems like it may be a noisy hot ride in that spot?
I will have to re-upholster mostly anything I got to match. Sewfine made those in case any one was curious.

Singler3360: Could you by any chance elaborate a touch more on this? JB Weld and duct tape, I have become quite a master of these fine instruments. Pictures would be great as I have never had a chance to inspect one of these seats in person.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winewagen I have pictures of my jump seat install in my gallery. Also have pictures of the JB weld floor anchors. Have a look I may also have a source for a jump seat like the ones in the photo.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danfromsyr: That stationary seat and ottoman would be the cats meow. I could not even imagine how hard it would be to find those? I have never seen one before, not even in pictures. Yes that was the kind of seat I was looking to find or maybe duplicate.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks binger59, that was extremely helpful. Please let me know if your source pans out, Oswego is only a short drive North.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Singler3360: Could you by any chance elaborate a touch more on this? JB Weld and duct tape, I have become quite a master of these fine instruments. Pictures would be great as I have never had a chance to inspect one of these seats in person.


I will take a pic of the floor anchors when I get home later today/tonight.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Singler3360: Could you by any chance elaborate a touch more on this? JB Weld and duct tape, I have become quite a master of these fine instruments. Pictures would be great as I have never had a chance to inspect one of these seats in person.


Forgot to come back and post pics. You can see the lap belt that came with the jumpseat, but I suggest getting the 3-point seat belt at GW at the same time you install the seat bracket, etc...
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Up close. Can't remember the size of the SS nuts but I know it's mentioned in another thread. The floor and subflooring came out in one plug, IIRC, using a standard drill bit. Then I went back in with a grinder tip and scuffed up the metal so the JB Weld would adhere better.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any basic handyman/carpenter can build one. it's a fairly easy box to build out of 3/4" plywood, the ASI version is particle board covered in melomine. I'm just over a few miles north of syracuse if you want to see it. it's a tad bulky to bring along to any of our local fingerlakes region VW campouts or cruise events. (see CNY VW events link in my sig)
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danfromsyr: That stationary seat and ottoman would be the cats meow. I could not even imagine how hard it would be to find those? I have never seen one before, not even in pictures. Yes that was the kind of seat I was looking to find or maybe duplicate.

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