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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: New dog not a happy camper in the van |
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My new puppy is not a good traveller. He is 4 mo old now and whined the first time and every time since that I havee taken him for a ride. It starts within about 5 minutes of driving and he squirms all around and finally settles down on my lap. Still whines though and gets up and turns around and generally is driving me nuts. After an hour he seems to give up and lays on my lap quietly for thte most part. But in another month or so he will be too big for that to work.
Anyone have any ideas on how I can make this work out. I built a little platform that fits between the front seats that helps a little but he still isn't comfortable unless he is sitting on my lap. He is not crate trained and I tried sticking him in one today and he fought it to the point that I gave up,
He spend the trip back from skiing behind my back in the front seat of all places. Very uncomfortable for me but it was the only place he would sit and shutup. And this is only highway driving, I can only imagine how the dirt roads and trails are goinng to be. Suggestions would be appreciated. |
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 3038 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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easy...city pound |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32625 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Corwyn Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 2238 Location: Olympia, Washington
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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My dog does the same thing. After a while he's too tired to fidget and falls asleep. Be patient and stop frequently, until it's used to the ride. _________________ '90 White Westy ("The Longship")
FAS Gen V 2.0
The Annual Baja Rally
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604813&highlight=baja
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ x2
Get the dog off your lap & use ear plugs for the whining.
He'll be better in a few weeks/months... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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2BOLLOX Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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He is i charge, and knows it!
There can only be one Alfa DOG!
Take him to the van when not moving and show him his place.
If he moves correct him.
Short times in his spot, with positive enforcement! _________________ VANAGON 1.9 SEA TURTAL
R32
R1100RS
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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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2BOLLOX wrote: |
He is i charge, and knows it!
There can only be one Alfa DOG!
Take him to the van when not moving and show him his place.
If he moves correct him.
Short times in his spot, with positive enforcement! |
Have you trained a puppy? It isn't a matter of alpha. Obviously I am alpha over a 2 month, now 4 month old puppy. It is more of a "he is terrified of driving in the van, and I am trying not to make it worse" |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32625 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Steelhead Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Kentfield, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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lots of treats? _________________ '77 Bay Window / '89 Caratsburg (aka. the Stormtrooper) |
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Let him sit in the van as much as possible when you're at home, preferably in the back seat. Maybe he'll warm up to the van. What kind of dog? _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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2BOLLOX Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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you have no idea, how much I know about this!
But its not about me.
Sit in the van with him and the engine running, radio loud etc.
When he is good praise him! Look up clicker trainer!
You will have to do your part> _________________ VANAGON 1.9 SEA TURTAL
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Gauche1968 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Its not really safe for you, the dog or other drivers that the dog is making it uncomfortable for you to drive. You are going to have to invest some money in a trainer. Absent that, you can probably find a vet to write a prescription for a doggie sedative--but, that probably isn't very good for the pup. _________________ 1984 Vanagon GL
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danbar Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2011 Posts: 464 Location: North Bend, WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thinking I would hang out with him in the van at home. Play with him in there and get him used to it. Give him treats for being in the van when it's not moving and build up from there. My dog will do anything for treats. He was terrified of my dune buggy and wouldn't even sit in it in the driveway. Once I started it he was having nothing to do with it. I forced him to sit in there and fed him treats while I let it idle for a while. Once he calmed down a little I went for a drive around the block while shoving treats in his mouth. By the end of the day he LOVED the dune buggy. Now he rides around shotgun happily. Having a food motivated dog helps a lot in training. _________________ '88 SCA High/Pop-top Syncro camper
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theDrew Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2011 Posts: 1155 Location: Camas, WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I got a older lab from the Humane Society a few years ago and she was a "special needs" dog -- poor thing was a neuritic mess from her piece of shit previous owners.
I had my van and wanted to get her to be road trip friendly, but she was completely terrified of being in it.
So we started "van training". I first opened up all the doors and we'd just sit in the van, doors still open, and have dinner together.
Few days of that and we graduated to having dinner with the doors closed.
Few more days of that, then we'd take it around the block and then have dinner.
Then we'd move to driving to the park and have dinner.
Now she loves the van -- she'll even hang out in it while I"m doing yard work.
Slow baby steps and you'll get there! _________________ Turbo 2276 MS3X build http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=673125
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joseph928 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 2114 Location: flagstaff az.
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: dog in van |
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Some good ideas here. All I can say is mine did that, now at 2 years he loves to go 4 wheeling . Even on Samba there is a video of him hanging out the window on Hells Revenge ! Just have patience all will get better. _________________ 1987 syncro westy tin top sun roof , GW2.3, rear locker, decoupler, Gary Lee tire rack & winch mount, lift, south african grill, big brakes , rhein alloy ,15 BFG AT, Fiamma 10 foot awning ,140 watt rear 85 watt front solar , mppt, truckfridge, automatic fire extinguishing system, tencent oil cooler, And a RMW SS exhaust! - 1971 bug convertible 1776 engine- 2010 Subaru turbo - 1993 Toyota 4x4 truck - 1999 Harley 95 CI, big bore, Andrews cams . Also 80-84- vans. Stock 65 sunroof bug. |
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debbiej Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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I am a believer of crates in vans. It is safer traveling for both you and the dog, in so many ways. And if the crate is it's sleeping place at home too, they feel an extra bit of security if they can travel in it. My dogs prefer their crate to being tied up at a campsite too. My dogs are big, they need to be where they are safely out of the way while traveling. Neither do I worry about them accidentally getting out of the van. |
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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: dog in van |
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joseph928 wrote: |
Some good ideas here. All I can say is mine did that, now at 2 years he loves to go 4 wheeling . Even on Samba there is a video of him hanging out the window on Hells Revenge ! Just have patience all will get better. |
Good to hear, and other good comments. Sorry I barked back on one. I have been letting him get away with more than I would because he is really scared. His body shakes and and he doesn't whine like he wants his way, he cries like please help me. He doesn't mind the van when it isn't moving and he runs around looking for treats I have hidden in there, but it is getting worse now that he is associating the van with more driving and less just sitting in the driveway. Otherwise he is a pretty fearless and fun loving dog. Part border collie, part lab.
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debbiej Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Also, could he be getting carsick? |
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danbar Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Good point on the carsick. It took my dog a few months to fully outgrow getting sick on any ride over 30 min. He puked all over me on the way home when we first got him. I was really worried that he wouldn't be a road trip dog but that's not a concern anymore. _________________ '88 SCA High/Pop-top Syncro camper
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joseph928 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 2114 Location: flagstaff az.
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:50 pm Post subject: dog in van |
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Thats one good looking dog. Here is mine and boy does he love to go camping. So you will have lot's of years together to go camping, just will take some time. Did I say it is all worth the time! _________________ 1987 syncro westy tin top sun roof , GW2.3, rear locker, decoupler, Gary Lee tire rack & winch mount, lift, south african grill, big brakes , rhein alloy ,15 BFG AT, Fiamma 10 foot awning ,140 watt rear 85 watt front solar , mppt, truckfridge, automatic fire extinguishing system, tencent oil cooler, And a RMW SS exhaust! - 1971 bug convertible 1776 engine- 2010 Subaru turbo - 1993 Toyota 4x4 truck - 1999 Harley 95 CI, big bore, Andrews cams . Also 80-84- vans. Stock 65 sunroof bug. |
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