CSP Linkage

[bugguy1967]

Anyone try the T3 specific bell crank linkage yet? Just ordered one from Pierside.
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[bugguy1967]

Here it goes. Has a provision for the return spring just like the T1 style. Very high quality. I feel it's higher than my T1. The only issue I seem to be having is that the screw that attaches to the arms bumps into the Dellorto idle speed screw bosses and doesn't allow full throttle. The'll need to be cut down a bit at the threads.

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[Brent]

That looks really nice!
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[W1K1]

Can you run it from the stock PDSIT linkage location at the rear? or does it have to be set up like that to work?
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[gtixpress]

Is there any advantage to running this style linkage versus the normal hex bar type setup?
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1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
2002 VW GTI 337 (Limited Edition)
2018 VW Atlas SE VR6 4Motion
2019 VW Beetle S Final Edition Convertible

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[bugguy1967]

[68notch]

I just fitted this CSP linkage with Dellorto's too and had the same small issue with the ball stud thread on the arm touched the carb but this just needed a bit of a grind and it works fine.

Although I am now a little disappointed to see that yours has this return spring on the centre pivot as mine did not come with that!! I did find that the original Dell return springs are not strong enough and so I have added a third spring hanging off the centre pivot.

Otherwise they are all good.

Also I am pretty sure they can only mount at the rear (front) of the engine as they are designed to fix to those particular case bolts.
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[bugguy1967]

It did not come with it. At Pierside, you can buy one and install it yourself for 5 bucks. Yes, that's the problem that I have to fix. I'm not going to modify the carb body. Just the linkage.

Also, the center piece CAN bolt on toward the front of the case. It's just the rods that will not clear the tins.
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[68notch]

[bugguy1967]

Here's it new in the pack. Took a month to get here. Phew!

Here's me installing the spring.

The base's provision for the return spring:

Here's the bellcrank in the wrong place. Fits fine. Just the rods are an issue.

It is for a Porsche as well:

Here's a crappy pic of the arm bumping the boss.

A picture of the boss. Throttle is in the closed position here.

Ok here's the height of the linkage at the edge of the tins. Four inches. On the other side, see how it won't clear? The #4 side of the tin is over 4 1/2 inches tall. With mods it will work, but I'm lazy sometimes, so this will work for this engine.

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"A petrol engine can start readily, run smoothly and give every appearance of being in good order, without necessarily being in good tune." - Colin Campbell, "The Sportscar Engine"

[bugguy1967]

I was going to cut the threads down to clear the boss, but found an easier way to fix:

I just added two 5mm washers to shim it away.
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[qoopwn]

So is it all good now? In the pic with the linkage attached and the carbs on the car, it looks backwards to me but maybe I'm just looking at it wrong o.o

edit** I just saw the instructions on the piece of paper for the linkage, you have it in the right spot. I was mixed up, under the impression it was supposed to rest on the same studs for the stock linkage.

[gtixpress]

Where do you purchase this linkage kit from? And will it fit a set of DRLA 40's?
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Joe P.
1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
2002 VW GTI 337 (Limited Edition)
2018 VW Atlas SE VR6 4Motion
2019 VW Beetle S Final Edition Convertible

[luckystiff]

i beleive peirsideparts as well as many other vendors carry it. it's basiclly the t4 linkage and it works for t3 also. theres been several guys on shoptalkforums using it on t3 for several years. i think it's just now finally being promoted to work on both. and yes on the DRLAs. i'm thhinking about switching to this linkage at some point myself...ken....
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[gtixpress]

This one? http://www.piersideparts.net/CSP129941400.html

It's hard to tell with the pictures on there if it is the same as the installed pictures above.
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1969 VW Type 3 Squareback
2002 VW GTI 337 (Limited Edition)
2018 VW Atlas SE VR6 4Motion
2019 VW Beetle S Final Edition Convertible

[DKKWorm]

That's the incorrect one. I don't think you want the Type 4 version. The Bell Crank unit bolts to the case differently. I am currently in process of installing the Type 1 Porsche Fan shroud for IDF version. Theres quite a bit of tweeking so far. It looks like it will work really well. It is not a simple project with 42 DCNF's. Ill post when undated.

[DKKWorm]

I didn't take many pics sorry. It took a few days of off and on tinkering but its in and works great so far. I purchased the Porsche fan shroud for IDF kit. I was told to use all the bits from the kit but there was no way the throttle levers included in the kit would have worked on my set up. The levers in the kit were flat and would not clear anywhere on either side. My carbs already had on them the S shaped throttle levers that protrude out from the body to add clearance for the accelerator pump etc. So I slightly opened the hole in them so the included swivel arm sockets would slip into the holes. This was really the only mod.
I purchased the return spring that CIP shows as an addition to the kit. It is helpful but not near strong enough to work on it's own, so I added another spring to the unit. I did add a few washers to the arm ends at the carb so the nut would clear the acc. pump. I can say that one of the rods is just a bit short. I wish more thread was inside the socket on the 1-2 side. I would have liked to have another 1/4" or more. Maybe one day I will make up a linkage rod a touch longer. But with the set nut tightened it appears to be solid enough. This linkage is SMOOTHE. It will take some tinkering but well worth the effort.

[Brent]

[DKKWorm]

Plenty of room.