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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Do ICT's fit Kadron manifolds? Reply with quote

Or can they be made to fit? Just looking for taller intakes. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since there is only 6mm difference in the throttle size the ICT might be a close fit to the Kadron manifolds. Your throttle linkage will be raised as well which could cause problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bolt holes on the top of the kadron intakes is about 1/2 an inch wider. Bolt to bolt ICT 2 1/2: apart. Bolt holes Kadrons 3" apart

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking,You could make a adapter plate if you don't have access to the ICT intakes.
The best way is to buy the proper intakes.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input and the measurements. Just tossing ideas around.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen a picture of what you're thinking about. A new plate with the ICT pattern was welded to the top of the steel manifold.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at these two photos and captions. Though they pertain to single-port intake manifolds, the carb flange dimensions are what you need. I don't have an ICT manifold to measure, but you do- so this may help you.

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Comparison of manifolds for carburetors (left to right) Solex 32PDSIT (Type 3), Dell'Orto 34FRD (Type 1), Kadron (Solex/Brosol 40EIS).

PDSIT and 34FRD mounted on wood so that all have approx. the same flange height.

Carburetor stud/hole spacing, approx. center to center:
PDSIT 2 3/8" (60mm)
34FRD 2 11/16" (68mm)
Kadron 2 7/8" (73mm)

Carb flange hole diameter:
PDSIT 1 3/8" (35mm)
34FRD 1 1/2" (38mm)
Kadron 1 9/16" (40mm)

Balance tube outer diameter:
PDSIT 5/8" (17mm)
34FRD drilled for 3/8" hole (9mm)
Kadron 5/16" (8mm)


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Comparison of manifolds for (left to right) Solex 32PDSIT for Type 3, Dell'Orto 34FRD (Type 1 application), and Kadron (Solex/Brosol 40 EIS).

Height of carb flange to manifold mounting flange (simulates the vertical height above the head), measured to underside of bottom flange at attachment holes:
PDSIT 3.0" (76mm)
34FRD 3 3/4" (95mm)
Kadron 5 3/4" (146mm)

Runner length, along "inner" side of manifold pipe (facing the engine), from top of carb flange surface to bottom outlet of manifold:
PDSIT 3 3/4" (95mm)
34FRD 4 5/8" (117mm)
Kadron 6 1/4" (158mm)

All have the manifold base "shoulders" extending 1/4" (6mm) downward into the head's intake port.


Most likely you are working with dual-port heads. The DP Kadron manifolds are similar in height to the SP ones.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Do ICT's fit Kadron manifolds? Reply with quote

Digging around some ideas I have and thus landed on this old post. So sorry in advance.

I'm intending to start building a 1200cc motor but would like to dual carb it. So I bought a nice set of 1300cc heads because I knew getting manifolds that would bolt on the 1200cc heads is next to impossible. This was because I had been planning to use 34ICTs on it.
Then I also acquired a pair of 32PDSITs and thought I can save the ICTs for another 1776cc build. Now I've been searching for single port manifolds that can take the PDSITs married to the 1300cc heads on a type 1 application. Are they available anywhere? Or if not, can I fab something for manifolds?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Do ICT's fit Kadron manifolds? Reply with quote

Easy: These: https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3261.htm I bought a pair, and the carb flange hole pattern is the same as for your 32 PDSIT's which I tried myself. And the manifold attachment spacing at the head is same for a 1300 as for a 1500/1600 SP head.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Do ICT's fit Kadron manifolds? Reply with quote

Thanks so much @Rome. Problem solved. Wink
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