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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't drill out anything. There is some threadlock on the grub screw that needs to be picked out before it is backed out.

Can confirm, there is no need to drill. I've just disassembled several real nasty crusty old slider door handles. And one mint NOS VW one, for comparison. There is some rubbery goo on the head of the grub screw, to fill the gap and make it level with the handle body. It's soft enough that you don't even need to pick it out, you can simply push the screwdriver through it and engage the grub screw.

The eyeglass repair screw that comes with several Swiss Army Knife models is the perfect size for this job and works very well here. Grub screw came out with ease on all four handles I disassembled today, no picking and no drilling required.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:40 am    Post subject: Re: Sliding door handle re-keying how-to Reply with quote

I've never heard of it being reproduced by itself unfortunately.
Maybe a tiny o'ring would work the same and get crushed to get the same shape once installed?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Sliding door handle re-keying how-to Reply with quote

Has anyone found a replacement seal that fits on the sliding door lock cylinder that is in this picture?
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Is it the same seal that fits the front door cylinders that is 111837227B and NLA? I can’t find the part number on ETKA for the slider door cylinder seal. Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you don't need to drill out the grub screw. It's a very small screw with a small plastic cover on it. Pull the plastic cover out and use a s mall screwdriver to take the screw out. Proceed in reverse upon reassembling.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't drill out anything. There is some threadlock on the grub screw that needs to be picked out before it is backed out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could someone clarify for me the issue of the 'grub screw and cover'? The original posting suggests drilling out the grub screw, and then after resetting the lock tumblers reinserting it. My question is - are you just drilling out a cover and then unscrewing the screw, or if drilling out both, what will be used then as a grub screw? Part number or ?? - do you have to rethread the screw hole for a larger set screw, and if so, what size was used.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the older version of this snap-on radiator pick that I slip in at the end of the handle and gently pry the plastic grip off with.
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There are 2 metal tabs that are cast into the back of the handle on the flat part that snap into a pair of tabs on the the plastic grip.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncrodoka, so how do you remove the plastic part without ruining it??
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing the black plastic finger cover is the hardest part of the process, the cover isn't simply snapped into place. There are a pair of metal posts that protrude from the handle under the cover that slide onto a pair of metal sleeved keepers in the cover.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Now on to the plastic. I'll try hot water and a small screw driver.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paint stripper on a q-tip for more pecise placement will remove any powdercoat that gets into holes that the powdercoater inevitably will not mask off. As long as you have the cylinder, the spring and the locking bar out you are good to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the lock cylinder is out, you've done it all. The remaining silver part at the bottom with the lock code stamped on it does not come out (afaik). Make sure they tape off everything that is not visible from the outside of the van so the size of the holes does not change (too much powder can be too thick to reinstall moving parts).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't find any explanation how to remove the last part of the slider handle lock. I've removed the grub screw and lock cylinder in preparation for powder coating. How do you remove the last piece?




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 82 Hatch Key Redo Reply with quote

Thanks again for the post, i was able to rekey my sliding door and rear hitch door. Now i can lock the hatch instead of using a wood block to lock it.

As for the hitch lock, if it is lock in the "open" position, which prevent it from accessing the pin(which holds the lock core and that triangle push widge thing). You can try dremel/drill access holes 90 degree from the original access hole. you will need two, one on each side to form a cross. then push the pin out from the newly drill access hole. Afterward, you can pull the widge out and push the lock core out the other side.

FYI: i never done this method since the PO didn't place the pin back so i was able to pull the wedge out and push the lock core out. But this method will save you the trouble of sourcing any other hitch lock and save $180. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Slider Door Reply with quote

The spring was a little tricky but much easier (once I figured it out) than the door spring. Locks updated, cleaned and reinstalled! Thanks, I appreciate the help.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 82 Hatch Key Redo Reply with quote

70coupyel wrote:
westofcenter wrote:
So I am attempting to get my hatch key to match my other keys and am having trouble removing the tumbler. I cannot insert my key and I am assuming it is unlocked since I can open the door. I cannot see any pin or release screw to gain access to the tumbler? Anybody have the trick?


My small button rear hatch lock was hosed in the unlocked position. I found out that in order to get the tumbler out it needs to be in the locked position. I still have it like this.
I went to a j/y and I watched a guy hack one up,with a Dremel, because he did not know what he was doing.
I went to my parts guy and he found a brand new one. It had ten years of dust on it and to the tune of $180.00. Shocked I was just so happy I could lock my van up again. My surfboards were safe again.
I do not think that this part is even available.
Maybe send it off to one of the VW locksmiths here on Samba?


So, were you able to get your locks matched up? Doors, ignition, and hatch all the same key?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 82 Hatch Key Redo Reply with quote

westofcenter wrote:
So I am attempting to get my hatch key to match my other keys and am having trouble removing the tumbler. I cannot insert my key and I am assuming it is unlocked since I can open the door. I cannot see any pin or release screw to gain access to the tumbler? Anybody have the trick?


My small button rear hatch lock was hosed in the unlocked position. I found out that in order to get the tumbler out it needs to be in the locked position. I still have it like this.
I went to a j/y and I watched a guy hack one up,with a Dremel, because he did not know what he was doing.
I went to my parts guy and he found a brand new one. It had ten years of dust on it and to the tune of $180.00. Shocked I was just so happy I could lock my van up again. My surfboards were safe again.
I do not think that this part is even available.
Maybe send it off to one of the VW locksmiths here on Samba?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: 82 Hatch Key Redo Reply with quote

So I am attempting to get my hatch key to match my other keys and am having trouble removing the tumbler. I cannot insert my key and I am assuming it is unlocked since I can open the door. I cannot see any pin or release screw to gain access to the tumbler? Anybody have the trick?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
(NOTE: The rear hatch lock is next......)


Small and large button?? Very Happy Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more islander... wrote:
Duly bookmarked. Thanks!

No need. It is in the FAQ.

The various lock threads all reference each other too now.

(NOTE: The rear hatch lock is next......)
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