the trouble with lloyd (a 74 rebuild)

troubledmind76

well so begins. last year i happened across a 74 sunbug didnt seem bad ran inspected and a fair price for my area.so yeah he followed me home. the kids name d him lloyd and it fit so. well after a year time for state inspection and i couldnt help myself he needed some work and i didnt just want to patch things together. ( lets hope he survives). and any help along the way is appriciated

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troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject:

well it striipped him down and prepaired to seperate the body

with the help of a few friends we lifted it aside

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject:

what a mess! the po did some nasty things to lloyd .

lovely patches

and this is whatr was under them

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:02 pm Post subject:

well its all got to go

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject:

a few hrs with a sawsall and a call to the parts shop new pans , frame head, napoleons cap, on the way. i replaced the front beam when i first baught the car so just need to freshen it up some

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject:

while im waiting on parts i started on the engine. compression check showed 123 #1 127 #2 85 #3 and 120 #4. yep apart she goes. found a stock build 1600 dp for sale locally after talkin with the owner found out motor only has 700 miles on a fresh build after market case. the guy who built it didnt tighten the flywheel bolts an well you can guess the rest so after 300$ home it goes. tear it down and its beautiful other than the crank crisp clean cross hatching, stock pistons , jugs , and heads so just a direct swap over to my tired engine and away we go. this is my first time ever working on vw aircooled engine so this makes it easy.

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject:

i even got lucky and while examining a parts car at a little side of the road junky car lot found these sitting in the front floor boards of a rotted 75 super.

an original set of kadrons. guy didnt know what they were or care so 40$ and they were mine. they were attached to sp intakes so ordered a new set of dp and the linkage from kaddy shack along with rebuild kits for total of about 130. (anyone interested in the single ports? they were cut in the middle and a hose ran between but maybe someone may want them anyway)

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject:

now about the body . the heater channels are toast, the duct work heading to the windshield was stuffed full of steel wool. WHY!! several patch panels covered with bondo, the wiring has been half removed and slpiced more places than i can count. the further i dig the more i find. gotta love po and there cover and go cheap fixes.

troubledmind76 · Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject:

dry fiitting the first pan

hopefully this weekend the weather will allow so i can cut off the frame head then i can start welding in the new parts

troubledmind76 · Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject:

just cut off the rusted out frame head

and the new head just mocked in place still have trimming to do and measure measure measure.

75smith · Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject:

looking good so far, did you measure before cutting off the frame head?

and another thing is the floors, 90% seem to come with the wrong style seat pedestal, as seen here

I had to remove the bracket and re-weld it on the new pan(bottom of my original pedestal was pretty bad)

can't wait to see more
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troubledmind76 · Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject:

this is my first resto and any major body work on anything so i have a note book full of measurements so far. check each one three times before i write it down. but i know with aftermarket parts and such not everything is gonna come together perfect but hopefully close. and yes the pedestals are wrong they are alomst half an inch lower than the originals. i plan on installing different seat and will be making my own mounts so not to big a deal.

troubledmind76 · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject:

storming most of the day so i figured id would play with some paint.

grabbed a tin and cleaned it up a bit

a quick shot of primer

and some paint

i know it doesnt look perfect but i was just playing around and it wont be a show car . but after the second coat it did come out a bit better than the pics on here. color was oil rubbed bronze similar to hammered paint . any thoughts?

75smith · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject:

looks good, kind of metallicy but still nice, should contrast well with the other engine parts
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james74sb · Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:09 am Post subject:

Looks like Lloyd is in good hands,I like reading start to finish posts..It's good to see another bug get saved from the scrap heap.Keep the pics and the good work up!

Rome · Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject:

Wow- lots of hidden sins. Lloyd actually looked quite presentable in your first photo. But good score with the fresh 1600 engine.

KEEP THOSE SP KADRON MANIFOLDS! They are hard to find, even with the drilled holes you mention. Just look at the asking prices in theSamba classifieds... Might be worthwhile to trade them for something you need.

Measure your front axle mount section many times before you align and weld it. The entire wheel alignment and vehicle tracking will depend on a totally accurate positioning and thorough welding.

In what section of PA are you located?

troubledmind76 · Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject:

thanks so far guys. yeah i got real luck with the engine. as for the sp manifolds i just sold them to a member on here for 40$. works for me thats what i paid for the carbs so im happy. south central pa in chambersburg, its just west of gettysburg

djkeev · Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject:

Do you have the proper dimensions and alignment pricedures for that new head?

It is majorly important that it be on there correctly! If not it will never be aligned and will "crab" down the road eating tires and handling "funny".

Dave
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troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject:

finally had a break in the weather so i was able to get the new frame head welded on. started with a row of plug welds then after I rechecked all the measurements I welded the ends.

as u can see above I hammered it out and was able to get the original contour for the clutch housingto match fairly well.

add a plate on the bottom to fill in a gap from cutting.

and all measurements are with a 32nd to a 16th of the original.

troubledmind76 · Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:15 pm Post subject:

I added por15 to the inside of the tunnel before i attached the new head and fuel lines. hopefully tomorrow or thursday I can clean up the welds a bit then start welding in the floor pans. ( side note I was using a 125$ flux core mig welder from the local farm center nothing special and it definately leaves alot to be desired but it does the job although not the prettiest welds they are sound). after the pans are in i will por15 the frame.


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