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DirtyBlueVan
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 Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:06 am Post subject: Transmission coming out, anything extra I should do? |
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I haven't really ever wanted to light a Jiffy lube on fire before I tried removing the transmission fill plug. I took heat to it, a chisel to it, and finally an extractor to it. So now all I have is a mangled fill plug stuck in the trans.
The transmission is about ready to come out, I just need to get that 8mm 12 point tool for the axles. Is there anything else I should change before I put it back together? I already have the oil seal for the input shaft, clutch has about 20k on it. the car has 258k miles so anything that's easy enough I will do.
At least the previous owner gave me receipts so I wouldn't be blaming him for the 4000ftlb torque on the fill plug. |
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insyncro
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| I have had 100% success removing fill plugs with the Snap On 17mm plug wrench. |
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gears
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I have to agree that many shops over tighten these for no good reason. I've been using teflon tape for years. Lower torque, no leaks, easy removal.
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rlamb
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| insyncro wrote: |
| I have had 100% success removing fill plugs with the Snap On 17mm plug wrench. |
Ar those still available new? (haven't checked the classified ads here yet).
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syncrodoka
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Central Syncronizer
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Check the oil slinger on the input shaft before you put the new seal in. If its loose, now is the time to fix it.
There is a great thread on it with a step by step repair. The search should turn it up.
Oh, yeah and tack weld the nuts on the bottom of the clutch slave bracket. It will make it a lot easier removing and replacing the clutch slave.
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IdahoDoug
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Always a good idea to tell us what trans/vehicle we are talking about - year, etc. There will be different recommendations if you have a manual trans vs the automatic trans.
Are you pulling the trans just for the fill plug issue? If so, I'd recommend before you do that take it to a welder who can weld something stout onto the plug, such as a large bolt so you can get it out. $20 well spent.
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Wildthings
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| You can always just weld be piece of bar stock to the drain plug. The heat alone might make it unscrew easily. |
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chojinchef
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Leftover mercedes SL lug bolt, misc VW lug nut. Weld would have been better if I bothered removing some of the chrome.
Works great
X2 on modifying the clutch slave bracket.
LP
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rlamb
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Thanks!
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DirtyBlueVan
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| IdahoDoug wrote: |
Always a good idea to tell us what trans/vehicle we are talking about - year, etc. There will be different recommendations if you have a manual trans vs the automatic trans.
Are you pulling the trans just for the fill plug issue? If so, I'd recommend before you do that take it to a welder who can weld something stout onto the plug, such as a large bolt so you can get it out. $20 well spent.
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1985 1.9l manual.
I already pulled it. The plug is mangled up pretty badly so I'm going to let professionals take care of it. I already busted a welded up bolt for a tool, I didn't try welding something to the plug. The plug no longer has any semblance of it's former self.
In the middle of me removing the transmission (solo, that was difficult in a gravel driveway) I found a coolant hose without a clamp...Now I just need to get the fuel line changed out. I need to get the van back together to go get some tires I ordered put on.
I'll be happy when this is all over. Then it's time to enjoy it until it explodes....then bye bye wbx.
I am concerned about the strain I put the engine through, I didn't support it before lowering the transmission. I got a hockey stick and ratchet strap holding it up now. |
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bdcain
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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i got a set of big allen sockets for 10$ from
princess auto
if you are canadian
princess auto is the place for you
cheap prices
they take will take back any mangled tool
with a 17mm i think and a breaker bar easy as pie
also if you are taking transmission off
maybee leave fill plug alone
and turn upside down to fill via drain plug as its out !
just do a precision fill
also when you do the oil slinger you can clean the magnetic plug at that time
just a thought |
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DirtyBlueVan
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| bdcain wrote: |
i got a set of big allen sockets for 10$ from
princess auto
if you are canadian
princess auto is the place for you
cheap prices
they take will take back any mangled tool
with a 17mm i think and a breaker bar easy as pie
also if you are taking transmission off
maybee leave fill plug alone
and turn upside down to fill via drain plug as its out !
just do a precision fill
also when you do the oil slinger you can clean the magnetic plug at that time
just a thought |
Yea I thought about that, I even thought about tapping my extractor hole and putting a plug in that. But I think a decent machine shop can make it good as new for a decent price.
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