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robcurtis2 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2006 Posts: 234
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Hi Yall,
Ugh! 1984 TinTopper here with the Yakima 1A towers, 2" Risers, MegaWarrior. So there are tons of Brackets to mount the ARB from DIY, to GoWesty to ARB Brackets. What would yall recommend afa no-drill brackets to mount my ARB Awning?
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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robcurtis2 wrote: |
Hi Yall,
Ugh! 1984 TinTopper here with the Yakima 1A towers, 2" Risers, MegaWarrior. So there are tons of Brackets to mount the ARB from DIY, to GoWesty to ARB Brackets. What would yall recommend afa no-drill brackets to mount my ARB Awning?
Cheers,
RC |
What's wrong with the ARB brackets? Is it the bracket or the bars that you don't want to drill holes into?
_________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Timwhy&show_results=summary
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Steve Arndt Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2005 Posts: 1780 Location: Boise, Idaho
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robcurtis2 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2006 Posts: 234
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:49 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I have the 66" crossbars so the way Tim has his mounted might not work on the inside of the silver tower that is around the bar. So the angle of the awning might hit the crossbar. If I mount the bracket on the outside of the silver tower clamp, then rain will come down between the awning and the van. Hmmm! I do like the ARB brackets because what you mention that they are bomb proof. Hmmm! I could cut the crossbars maybe. Still thinking and engineering. Ugh!
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RC |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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robcurtis2 wrote: |
I have the 66" crossbars so the way Tim has his mounted might not work on the inside of the silver tower that is around the bar. So the angle of the awning might hit the crossbar. If I mount the bracket on the outside of the silver tower clamp, then rain will come down between the awning and the van. Hmmm! I do like the ARB brackets because what you mention that they are bomb proof. Hmmm! I could cut the crossbars maybe. Still thinking and engineering. Ugh!
Cheers,
RC |
If you don't want to cut the bars down. You can loosen the bars and slide them over towards the drivers side and then tighten them up again.
I bought a set of 66" bars and cut them down to 58", as my original set were already that length. _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Timwhy&show_results=summary
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llilibel03 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2008 Posts: 767 Location: Redondo Beach California
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Sorry if this is already covered in the thread or elsewhere. I didn't feel like reading 20+ pages to find the info.
Is there any way to partially deploy an ARB? 8 feet was one of the draws whenI bought it, but on a recent trip it was too much for the campsite we were in. _________________ 87 syncro tintop
90 gl tin top
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Yellow Rabbit Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2005 Posts: 1146
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I haven’t tried it but it seems like you could just unroll in part way. The two aluminum side struts telescope. |
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llilibel03 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2008 Posts: 767 Location: Redondo Beach California
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Yellow Rabbit wrote: |
I haven’t tried it but it seems like you could just unroll in part way. The two aluminum side struts telescope. |
But the legs aare at the ends. You have to unfurl all the way tp get to them.
Maybe you could somehow gather the cloth after deploying the legs? _________________ 87 syncro tintop
90 gl tin top
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TurtsMcSlow Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2015 Posts: 78 Location: Derby City, Cantuckee
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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llilibel03 wrote: |
Sorry if this is already covered in the thread or elsewhere. I didn't feel like reading 20+ pages to find the info.
Is there any way to partially deploy an ARB? 8 feet was one of the draws whenI bought it, but on a recent trip it was too much for the campsite we were in. |
Go to page 21 and it shows you how they took a 3rd leg to rig something up. |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9618 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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llilibel03 wrote: |
Yellow Rabbit wrote: |
I haven’t tried it but it seems like you could just unroll in part way. The two aluminum side struts telescope. |
But the legs are at the ends. You have to unfurl all the way tp get to them.
Maybe you could somehow gather the cloth after deploying the legs? |
You unroll it, drop the legs, roll it back to the length you want (with the legs swinging wild in big circles on the ends). Then put them down and set the side telescoping bars.
(this is a guess of how it might be done)
If you removed the leg pivot bolts and replaced with pins it might be more feasible. I'm still guessing here....I should probably go out to the van and look at my ARB....but one of you sunny-climate fellas who use your awnings year round can do it, right? _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2797 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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^^Going from memory, seems like the little holes the telescoping legs go into would get buried when you rolled it back up. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL 2.1 AT Westfauxlia. "Frankie" Totaled https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764510&highlight=carnage
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acha3 Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2017 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:32 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Hi, just finished reading all post, great info, thanks guys, just want to know if anyone have use the new GW brackets without drilling? thanks |
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3803 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:36 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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acha3 wrote: |
Hi, just finished reading all post, great info, thanks guys, just want to know if anyone have use the new GW brackets without drilling? thanks |
From my research the GoWesty brackets will work with all rain gutters.
I chose to run 3x brackets for my 2500 size awning without drilling. It is on there pretty tight. I thought about doing the riv nuts but decided to try it without. I am happy with how it is. _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1039 Location: san diego
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:41 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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I'm very sure these will have been mentioned before, http://www.north-westy.com/store2/arb-brackets-vanagon-specific
I've seen a lot of vans with the ARB awning, a lot use the GW option, a lot of those I see the powder coat cracking, and the mild steel brackets rusting.
I bought the north westy brackets, non magnetic stainless steel brackets, I don't think they be rusting anytime soon.
My only gripe as far as the ARB awning is concerned, they do not offer a 10' version. _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3803 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:48 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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markswagen wrote: |
I'm very sure these will have been mentioned before, http://www.north-westy.com/store2/arb-brackets-vanagon-specific
I've seen a lot of vans with the ARB awning, a lot use the GW option, a lot of those I see the powder coat cracking, and the mild steel brackets rusting.
I bought the north westy brackets, non magnetic stainless steel brackets, I don't think they be rusting anytime soon.
My only gripe as far as the ARB awning is concerned, they do not offer a 10' version. |
I contacted northwesty and they said their brackets will not work with the "C" shaped gutter lip.
The GoWesty brackets are now Stainless steel _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1039 Location: san diego
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:55 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Which year vans have the " C " gutter lip, Lucy is an '85, they are on there and fit just fine, I wonder why they do not do an alternate option.
shagginwagon83 wrote: |
I contacted northwesty and they said their brackets will not work with the "C" shaped gutter lip.
The GoWesty brackets are now Stainless steel |
_________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:57 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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markswagen wrote: |
Which year vans have the " C " gutter lip, Lucy is an '85, they are on there and fit just fine, I wonder why they do not do an alternate option.
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My 83.5 had the "c" gutter lip. Looks like Lucy was one of the first new style starting in 85.
_________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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markswagen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:04 am Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Thank you, I learned something new today, and I can see why maybe there is not the other option, being a lot less of a potential need for them.
shagginwagon83 wrote: |
My 83.5 had the "c" gutter lip. Looks like Lucy was one of the first new style starting in 85.
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Kirsche Wasserboxer Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2016 Posts: 104 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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shagginwagon83 wrote: |
I contacted northwesty and they said their brackets will not work with the "C" shaped gutter lip.
The GoWesty brackets are now Stainless steel |
Funny that they would state this on the product description then "Fits all years and gutter types 1980 through 1991"?? I've had these brackets on my '90 Westy for two years now, no rust as of yet... _________________ 1990 Westfalia Vanagon
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: ARB Awning |
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Kirsche Wasserboxer wrote: |
Funny that they would state this on the product description then "Fits all years and gutter types 1980 through 1991"?? I've had these brackets on my '90 Westy for two years now, no rust as of yet... |
The GoWesty does work with all year. However the North Westy ones don't. But yes it is misleading.
However - and this is maybe how/why they keep the description - I called Van Cafe asking about their brackets. They said their bracket would work, but I would need to cut out the "C" part of the lip where the brackets will go. No thanks to that.
So yeah, pre 85, buy GoWesty. 85+ you have options. Buy Gowesty has their logo etched onto the bracket which is kinda cool IMO. _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
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