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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: My first clutch job on a Vanagon. Not as bad as I thought. |
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Pulled the transmission on my 89 Westfalia to do my first clutch job. I had been dreading this job for quite some time, but it was not bad at all.
So, I have a new Sachs PP, disk and TO bearing, took the flywheel in and had it turned at a machine shop to specs. Purchased new boots for the axles and a new boot for the shift rod.
Cleaned up the bell housing today as it was full of black dust and then gave the whole transmission a bath. Cleaned the engine behind the flywheel of the same black dust and I am now ready to put it all back together tomorrow.
Woohoo!
Old TO bearing.
Transmission is clean and dirt free for now.
One last wipe with a cloth and mineral spirits and the new TO is installed.
_________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
"Notchboy" says "Man up!"
"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
66 13W Deluxe, 68 Westfalia, 87 Syncro.
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Gruppe B Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2007 Posts: 1331
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nice job!
Are you going to replace the pilot bearing as well?
My clutch is fine but occasionally experience not being able to shift into first or second from a stop as if the pilot bearing is damaged.
Once I tear it apart I'll be better able to see what is going on |
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Gruppe B wrote: |
Nice job!
Are you going to replace the pilot bearing as well?
My clutch is fine but occasionally experience not being able to shift into first or second from a stop as if the pilot bearing is damaged.
Once I tear it apart I'll be better able to see what is going on |
Yes, new pilot bearing going in if needed. Otherwise I will just lube it up. _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
"Notchboy" says "Man up!"
"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
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IrideWheelies Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2009 Posts: 386 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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The pilot bearing and felt seal are only like $5. You should definitely replace it. I just had to pull my syncro trans out to replace mine because I was too lazy to do it when I had the trans out three months ago.
Dont forget the felt seal!
You might as well throw a rear main seal in too, since you're in there anyway. _________________ 89' Dove Blue Syncro Hightop |
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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IrideWheelies wrote: |
The pilot bearing and felt seal are only like $5. You should definitely replace it. I just had to pull my syncro trans out to replace mine because I was too lazy to do it when I had the trans out three months ago.
Dont forget the felt seal!
You might as well throw a rear main seal in too, since you're in there anyway. |
The trans had been rebuilt along with the engine by the previous owner. They only had 3000 mile on them when I bought and the clutch began slipping almost immediately. The main seal is fine, no oil leaking. I will check the pilot bearing as I said. Thank you. _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
"Notchboy" says "Man up!"
"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
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stubear334 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2009 Posts: 152 Location: Montgomery, AL
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I finished my newbie clutch job last year. To do it all over again, I would pull the engine out. Because replacing all the hoses, oil switches, belts, exhaust parts were a gargantuan pain in situ.
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: |
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stubear334 wrote: |
I finished my newbie clutch job last year. To do it all over again, I would pull the engine out. Because replacing all the hoses, oil switches, belts, exhaust parts were a gargantuan pain in situ.
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I hear that, but in this case, I had already done all of the engine work early last year. I was preparing for a trip, when the clutch began to slip...bummer!
What had happened with this Vanagon was the shop that installed the engine and transmission, installed a new clutch, PP and TO but did not machine the flywheel. I called them to find out as I did not see it on the work invoice. They looked it up and told me, "we are embarrassed to admit, but we overlooked that". _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
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"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Well, a bit bummed and definitely a bit poorer. I pulled the axles on the Westy, to clean, repack and replace the boots on the CV joints. I did the inner CV's first, took them apart and cleaned them. I found them to be clean, un-scarred, so I put them back together and bagged them to repack with grease.
With input from Chris (tencentlife) I pulled the axles and took apart the outer CV joints. Oh shit!, glad I did. After a good cleaning, I found they were scarred, scorched and in bad shape.
4 new Lobros on their way from Van Cafe and a few more down days to boot!
What an experience of learning and seeing what can happen to CV joints if not taken care of......even the grease on the outers was dry.... _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
"Notchboy" says "Man up!"
"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
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