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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

does Jack Bombay make some pop top shocks for 92- 95 eurovans ?

sent him email twice ...no answer!

otherwise where can I get some ?
thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: eurovan pop top shocks ? Reply with quote

BigDan1 wrote:
does Jack Bombay make some pop top shocks for 92- 95 eurovans ?

sent him email twice ...no answer!

otherwise where can I get some ?
thanks

Dan ,


Every now and then e-mails end up in my junk mail and I don't check it all that often. I make it a point to respond to all e-mails.

As far as struts for your eurovan you can replace the existing ones with stronger struts, here is a link to a thread with more info,

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=452010&highlight=evc
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my westfalia being a real westfalia (1994) i dont have any struts ...
(winnebago started in 1995 )
i need the exact same kit that you fabricate for vanagons but for my aplication ....( If you did some )

having a solar panel on the roof , my wife cant raise the poptop anymore !
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigDan1 wrote:
my westfalia being a real westfalia (1994) i dont have any struts ...
(winnebago started in 1995 )
i need the exact same kit that you fabricate for vanagons but for my aplication ....( If you did some )

having a solar panel on the roof , my wife cant raise the poptop anymore !


Ahhh, I haven't been around many eurovans. Is the roof and hinge the same on the winnebagos and the westies? My buddy has a 2003 EVC, if the roof and hinge are the same as yours I could take a look at his van and see if there is somewhere a set of struts could be installed and fab a set up for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill take some pics of the hinges .....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure the hinges from 93-03 are all the same, but the 01-03 got locking gas struts and the earlier ones had the Vanagon-style backbreaker knee support.

Here's the later style:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 92-94 pop top brackets :


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also be interested in something. I've got a 1993 Poptop on a 2002 Eurovan Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, there doesn't look to be an easy way to retrofit a strut to your eurovan with new parts.

I think the easiest way would be to get the strut mounts from a newer eurovan and mount those in your van. I Imagine they will be a bit tough to find, but a wanted ad here in the classifieds would be a good place to start.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just scored a set of factory mounts and one strut from a 2001 Westy on eBay to put in my '99 - as soon as GoWesty gets their locking struts back in stock. The mounts look like fairly standard ball-mounts, and probably anything the same size could be used, though some might need an extra plate to spread the load.

let's see if the pix from eBay will load...
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Now I just need to find some appropriate nut-serts...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the JackBombay lower mount would wok fine inside the EV, but something more like the factory upper would be needed. I'm planning to use the factory kit to replace my older-style folding brace support, and then maybe add a JB kit for the kayak and future solar panels.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

josh_w wrote:

Now I just need to find some appropriate nut-serts...


http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rivet-nuts/=n7jjaf



And for the bracket you can get then SUPER cheap from, ASR, it could be used for the top and bottom of the strut,

http://www.spdhardware.com/catalog/detail/?id=965a...5d1367dc49

I don't think it comes with the ball stud though, that would be part number BS-1005,

http://www.spdhardware.com/catalog/detail/?id=7f6f...c3b45fed2f
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

I just bought a set of GW pop top struts for my '01 Weekender and I'm having a helluva difficult time getting them to depress enough to fit into place. I'm wondering if I need to loosen the lower part of the tent in order to let the roof lift enough to fit them. Are there any other tips for this task?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
I just bought a set of GW pop top struts for my '01 Weekender and I'm having a helluva difficult time getting them to depress enough to fit into place. I'm wondering if I need to loosen the lower part of the tent in order to let the roof lift enough to fit them. Are there any other tips for this task?

What people typically do is use a tie-down strap, wrapped around the ends of the struts, to compress it. One must be careful during the compression that the strut ends don't escape from the stap.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

I'll give that a try. I had been thinking along those lines, but it seemed kinda awkward to implement.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

Ok, task accomplished. Here's the strut compressor setup I used:

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It was really nerve-wracking, as the tension required to compress these things the 2.5" needed was incredible. I thought for sure something was going to fly off and break bones and such.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

I've always wrapped the strap around the whole strut. Then the danger is that one of the ends will pop out. Here I was replacing the pop top itself (on an EVC), not the strut.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

I think we tried both the "direct strap" method and "supplemental hardware", on the 2 struts, when we replaced ours on our 97 EVC. (I think we might have used modified s-hooks, or something of that nature, for "supplemental hardware". I've forgotten the details, but probably ought to have kept notes.)

Both made me feel like I needed a lot of precautions, watching the direction of potential release/reaction, etc., to not lose an eye - or something else I'd rather keep, in case of an abrupt/unintended release... But I think I felt a little bit more secure with the "supplemental hardware" approach. Yeah, you need a lot of force to compress those struts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

The method I used is spelled out in a GW video for replacing EVC struts, which are a helluva lot shorter. I kept having to pull everything back since the offset nature of the strings at the ends tended to try and make the whole assembly bow in the middle rather than compress.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan pop-top shocks? Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
The method I used is spelled out in a GW video for replacing EVC struts, which are a helluva lot shorter. I kept having to pull everything back since the offset nature of the strings at the ends tended to try and make the whole assembly bow in the middle rather than compress.


I used the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5YsbpwqRGI

Amazing how stiff those buggers are.
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