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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah 2wds and late Syncros with the cast lowers that have the threaded receiver for the radius rod.... Evil or Very Mad bitches Evil or Very Mad

At least the 2wds have a hex area for a wrench, the Syncros don't.
What's that tell ya'....leave them along....haha Laughing

My only advise is lube and heat, but light heat, strip the threads in the cast portion and you are smoked Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no practical way to replace the inner bushing though without pulling the whole rod, right? Aside from removing the shock, spring, upper ball joint, and then lowering the entire lower control arm off..... if that's even possible with the radius rod still in place.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig,
I ain't teasin' Bro with this pic:

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See at the 6 o'clock postion, just below where the lower ball joint connects?
That's the end of the radius rod.
I heat right their.
If you look up from under the arm you will see the provision in the casting that is threaded on the inside...more light heat.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i don't really want to heat right there in fear of the lower ball joint.
I imagine i'm going to end up cooking that (or lighting it on fire) if that's the case. : /
I've never pulled a lower ball joint off so not sure what's involved.
What do you mean by "light heat"? I've been using mapp gas and trying to get it cherry red.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light heat at my shop would be seconds of oxy/acetylene with a fine tip.
Very precise and will not cook anything unless it is operator error.

Yah, Mapp will get it hot, but take way too long and chance torching parts nearby.

Just trying to help.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, the radius rods, even on the side that I recently replaced would simply not budge. Thus, we replaced only the sleeves and outer bushings. It should be pretty good still. It can at least be aligned and will stay aligned.

Sadly though, While looking at the brakes today I discovered THIS!
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These brakes are less than 5000 miles (and about a year and a half) old! Heck their super thick. Now if I can only find out who I bought them from, as they now owe me rotors and bearings as well....
Since another pad ate a rotor.
I hate these cars. I really truly hate these cars.
I wanted to paint it and be done today, but as always, i'm taking big steps backwards.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fear leads to anger,
Anger leads to hate,
Hate leads to suffering.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PROGRESS.
She's painted.
Sadly there is some primer overspray on the other side of the tape (was there before I taped) which will need to be wetsanded off, and there is some unresolved (and not sure what i'm going to do about...) body work above the line just behind the driver, but it should be good to start reassembling!

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Masking, papering, scuffing, and wax and grease removing alone takes almost 8 hours! I hate body work. Seriously.

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Here she is all painted up!
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Will open the present tomorrow! Lets see whats behind the tape.....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit more progress!
The seams behind the interior panels that showed any rust were ground clean as best they could be, painted with some junk rattle can (but still better than nothing right?) then blasted with Fluid Film once the paint was fully cured. After almost a month of having the Fluid Film sprayed on the inside seam, I found it weeping its way out through the seams on the exterior! I am SOOOOOOO impressed with this product. No notable odor and actively coating and penetrating!
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So today I got around to purchasing a Gallon of the stuff and spraying it out of my Upol Shultz gun on the entire bottom of the van. It took about 2/3 of a gallon to cover the van entirely including "fogging" the areas I couldn't quite spray and blasting into all the cavities of the frame. It bubbles up when it hits rust and flows amazingly well. Before spraying I heated the fluid Film to about 150* and will let it bake in the sun a few days (as well as not driving it in wet conditions for at least a week) to allow it to work it's way into the nooks and crannies.
This is truly the solution to making these vans last forever. Yep, i'll probably have to blast it once a year, but i'm fine with that! Heck, i'll even blast it one more time before winter comes along, why not? But this batch I want to soak in.
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Breaking in the new garage with a few busses! Winter bus on the left, A local friend's new bus on the right (had to go through it and give it a once over).
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A coat of wax can do good things....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This van has just been agreed to be sold!
I offered it to the family I purchased it from years ago as scrap metal, and they missed it so much that they've decided to purchase it.
So now it will be back in the hands of the previous owners, but in functional condition. A great deal for everyone. They get their broken bus back in 100% better shape than it was, And I got a vehicle that I got to use for a few winters and additional great experience saving another one from the scrapper!

Now on to the next two sitting in the driveway..... : )
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool story. Great thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few photos of the final product, ready to go to it's new/original owner!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inspiring! Looks great! Now to my van...
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