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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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NASkeet wrote: |
You might also wish to read old & new posts of mine and other contributors, to this topic thread on the Australian Kombi Club forum:
Home Forums > Help and Assistance > 'How To' & 'Handy Hints' > Easier sliding-door opening & closure, for 1968~79 VW Type 2s
http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/easier-sliding...-2s.35354/ |
There has been a further update to this topic thread regarding the 3D printed adapter for the sliding-door pull-close handle as follows:
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/mark-s-vw-bits
https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace
https://www.shapeways.com/product/THW8V53WR/vw-typ...areProduct
VW Type 2 Bus / Kombi Sliding Door Handle Adapter
Made by Mark's VW bits
£23.08
Product Description
VW Type 2 / Kombi / Bus sliding door adapter enables easier operation of sliding door on late bay window busses utilising the stock handle and mounting points. Maintains stock look similar to that which was factory installed on some US busses.
Discussed on Australian Kombi Club forum (Also shows factory handle placement and bracket):
http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/easier-sliding...-2s.35354/
Parts required:
1 x m5 x 30mm Hex bolt (does not need to be HT)
1 x m5 standard or nylex nut (washer optional)
2 x m6 Washer
2 x m6 x 20mm bolts
Stock VW Bus sliding door handle (plastic) _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
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Zed999 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2018 Posts: 1244 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Hippopotabus wrote: |
I use to have these same problems.... Wanna know the secret.....
Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed.
Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff.
And yes you should lube everything but try my time proven method. If it doesn't work check your cables in the door. |
The handle up thing only works for earlier doors where the key is in the handle. For later buses with seperate lock and handle you just slide them shut. |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Zed999 wrote: |
Hippopotabus wrote: |
I use to have these same problems.... Wanna know the secret.....
Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed.
Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff.
And yes you should lube everything but try my time proven method. If it doesn't work check your cables in the door. |
The handle up thing only works for earlier doors where the key is in the handle. For later buses with seperate lock and handle you just slide them shut. |
That sounds like typical retrograde engineering to save money! I am fortunate to have a 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 which features the best of the later upgrades and retains many of the earlier models' useful features. _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16959 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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That picture is what we call bus porn. I’d like to say what happens to me when I look at it but Busdaddy got in trouble for that yesterday. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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68IHscout Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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On the rear hinge ,can it be rebuilt ??the one i am working on sags and will not close unless it is propped up about 1/4 inch , thanks 74 west by the way anyone know what the name or paint code ia for that green and white one avove, the green color is the one i am interested in. |
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coolerthanelvis Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2003 Posts: 924 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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aeromech wrote: |
That picture is what we call bus porn. I’d like to say what happens to me when I look at it but Busdaddy got in trouble for that yesterday. |
And that is why the work computer won't show the pics. Darn filters!! _________________ Shawn
SV2s member #420
'68 Westy
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dembus Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2005 Posts: 1272 Location: Fleming Island, Florida
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Hippopotabus wrote: |
Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed. Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff. |
Ditto on this method! Works great! _________________ "Want a little peace of mind, grab the lowest branch and start to climb"
JJ Grey
69 Westy (R.I.P.)
68 Kombi
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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68IHscout wrote: |
On the rear hinge ,can it be rebuilt ??the one i am working on sags and will not close unless it is propped up about 1/4 inch , thanks 74 west by the way anyone know what the name or paint code ia for that green and white one avove, the green color is the one i am interested in. |
There is a slight adjustability on the rear hinge. There are 4 10mm bolts that hold it to the door itself. Two are accessible from outside the car and two are accessible from inside just under the rear of the window. Loosen all four a bit, tug up on the door and tighten the two most accessible to you as you keep holding up the door. Might help.
Colin _________________ www.itinerant-air-cooled.com |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2736 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:33 am Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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My door was hard to shut and sagging at the back .
I fitted a new Oilite bushing to the bottom of the door part of the hinge and it has improved a lot
I also had to get a new U bracket because the old one snapped which stopped the spring from being able to pop open the back of the door. _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
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markymark80 Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Cairns, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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Hi all,
Just a further update on the 3D printed adapters. I'm still using one printed in 2016 without issue. I've dropped the price on the better quality ones from shapeways (Nigel's post above) if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
Mark. |
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LeeE Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2004 Posts: 389 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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I followed the adjustment procedure and my slider opens and closes nicely, as it should, but after a year or so it won't latch open any more. I did not take the latch apart at the time when I adjusted the door.
Any idea what's wrong?
Before I take the door off and the latch apart _________________ 1978 Westfalia stock 2.0 FI
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12721 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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Holding the door open is split between the plate with three #3 Philips screws on the door itself, and the spring catch on the body under the cowling.
Sometimes the springs break. Sometimes the cover plate isn’t lined up perfectly.
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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When searching for the spring to hold the slider open, BusLab was the only place in the US I found it...
https://www.buslab.com/product-p/211843755.htm
For folks in Europe, BUS-ok has them...
https://www.bus-ok.de/Type2-bay-Spring-for-connected-buck-for-sliding-door-OEM-partnr-211-843-755
And installation is very easy, once the door is removed from its rear slider. The spring pops in...
_________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? |
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I don’t get this thread. How does your door fit in the hole if it’s slammed? _________________ .ssS! |
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