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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

NASkeet wrote:
You might also wish to read old & new posts of mine and other contributors, to this topic thread on the Australian Kombi Club forum:

Home Forums > Help and Assistance > 'How To' & 'Handy Hints' > Easier sliding-door opening & closure, for 1968~79 VW Type 2s

http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/easier-sliding...-2s.35354/


There has been a further update to this topic thread regarding the 3D printed adapter for the sliding-door pull-close handle as follows:

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/mark-s-vw-bits

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace

https://www.shapeways.com/product/THW8V53WR/vw-typ...areProduct

VW Type 2 Bus / Kombi Sliding Door Handle Adapter

Made by Mark's VW bits

£23.08

Product Description

VW Type 2 / Kombi / Bus sliding door adapter enables easier operation of sliding door on late bay window busses utilising the stock handle and mounting points. Maintains stock look similar to that which was factory installed on some US busses.

Discussed on Australian Kombi Club forum (Also shows factory handle placement and bracket):

http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/easier-sliding...-2s.35354/

Parts required:

1 x m5 x 30mm Hex bolt (does not need to be HT)
1 x m5 standard or nylex nut (washer optional)
2 x m6 Washer
2 x m6 x 20mm bolts
Stock VW Bus sliding door handle (plastic)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hippopotabus wrote:
I use to have these same problems.... Wanna know the secret.....

Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed.

Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff.

And yes you should lube everything but try my time proven method. If it doesn't work check your cables in the door.
The handle up thing only works for earlier doors where the key is in the handle. For later buses with seperate lock and handle you just slide them shut.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed999 wrote:
Hippopotabus wrote:
I use to have these same problems.... Wanna know the secret.....

Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed.

Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff.

And yes you should lube everything but try my time proven method. If it doesn't work check your cables in the door.


The handle up thing only works for earlier doors where the key is in the handle. For later buses with seperate lock and handle you just slide them shut.


That sounds like typical retrograde engineering to save money! Sad I am fortunate to have a 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 which features the best of the later upgrades and retains many of the earlier models' useful features.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

You know? The first poster of this thread was BobD himself back in 2003 when the car had 29,000 miles.

The sliding door maintenance procedure photographs were shot with that very bus in 2010.

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9144


http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9155#p164560

2018 Update at 111,134 miles:
Door opens and closes very nicely.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

That picture is what we call bus porn. I’d like to say what happens to me when I look at it but Busdaddy got in trouble for that yesterday.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

On the rear hinge ,can it be rebuilt ??the one i am working on sags and will not close unless it is propped up about 1/4 inch , thanks 74 west by the way anyone know what the name or paint code ia for that green and white one avove, the green color is the one i am interested in.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

aeromech wrote:
That picture is what we call bus porn. I’d like to say what happens to me when I look at it but Busdaddy got in trouble for that yesterday.


And that is why the work computer won't show the pics. Darn filters!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hippopotabus wrote:
Slide the door gently closed, you'll notice how the door is not completely sealed. Grab outside slider handle and pull in an upward motion. This will bring everything together (aligning, locking and sealing) without having to slam the door and destoy tiny springs and sctuff.


Ditto on this method! Works great!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

68IHscout wrote:
On the rear hinge ,can it be rebuilt ??the one i am working on sags and will not close unless it is propped up about 1/4 inch , thanks 74 west by the way anyone know what the name or paint code ia for that green and white one avove, the green color is the one i am interested in.


There is a slight adjustability on the rear hinge. There are 4 10mm bolts that hold it to the door itself. Two are accessible from outside the car and two are accessible from inside just under the rear of the window. Loosen all four a bit, tug up on the door and tighten the two most accessible to you as you keep holding up the door. Might help.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

My door was hard to shut and sagging at the back .

I fitted a new Oilite bushing to the bottom of the door part of the hinge and it has improved a lot
I also had to get a new U bracket because the old one snapped which stopped the spring from being able to pop open the back of the door.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just a further update on the 3D printed adapters. I'm still using one printed in 2016 without issue. I've dropped the price on the better quality ones from shapeways (Nigel's post above) if anyone is interested.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

I followed the adjustment procedure and my slider opens and closes nicely, as it should, but after a year or so it won't latch open any more. I did not take the latch apart at the time when I adjusted the door.
Any idea what's wrong?
Before I take the door off and the latch apart
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

Holding the door open is split between the plate with three #3 Philips screws on the door itself, and the spring catch on the body under the cowling.

Sometimes the springs break. Sometimes the cover plate isn’t lined up perfectly.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

When searching for the spring to hold the slider open, BusLab was the only place in the US I found it...

https://www.buslab.com/product-p/211843755.htm

For folks in Europe, BUS-ok has them...

https://www.bus-ok.de/Type2-bay-Spring-for-connected-buck-for-sliding-door-OEM-partnr-211-843-755

And installation is very easy, once the door is removed from its rear slider. The spring pops in...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Do You Have to Slam Your Sliding Door? Reply with quote

I don’t get this thread. How does your door fit in the hole if it’s slammed?
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