No more NEW Registrations in Texas?

[Letterman7]

[crsmp5]

my problem is what is their definition of rebuilt/resurected...

i can see rebuilt as salvage title/totaled type of cars...

rebuilt... unless its less then say 15 years old.. im sure some part has been rebuilt...

so it is far more worrysome then you all think... what aircooled anything by this time has not been rebuilt?

here is another one.. progressive insurance, grumman kubvan... they take your money then refund it as they lack it in their system... find out my friend has progressive... one day opened mail box w/check from them saying have nice life... they say it nonexistant with proper epa/vins and all..

ill whore my insurance company, classic collectors... 144/year stated value policy.. unlimite miles.. roadside.. they require pics... lots of forms and garage to keep it in... but best ever for price and coverage..

i did drive it 6400 miles to show in cali.. how i got unlimited miles..

[Bob Elgin]

color=midnightblue]Well my insurance man knows its a buggy(farmers ins) but thanx for the warning, will keep that in mind. [/color]
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[didget69]

Interesting... Progressive rep across the hall from me stated that Progressive will insure buggies here in NC. Have yet to confirm this -

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[kustoms]

This thread is troubling. We are looking at possibly moving Tj Kustoms to Texas. In fact my wife is down there right now getting a feel for the place.

I just called Texas DMV administrations. They tell me "no more dune buggies". A law was passed in the 81st legislature. Michael (DMV rep) will be calling me back with the code when she can find it. I will post it here when she does.
This sux!
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[didget69]

Interesting... and no replies yet from any commercial buggy builders in TX?

Tom/others: The ONLY thing I find in 'net searches that MAY be contributing to confusion are Web posts where people are discussing street use of Rhinos or similar UTVs.

I'd recommend that you look into clarifying the term 'dune buggy' with the Texas officials. My money says that the UTVs are what Texas folk are thinking when you say 'dune buggy' -

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[joescoolcustoms]

In my Tri-State area of WV, KY and OH, it is still very pro business and positive for car hobbist. In KY and OH, Rail Buggy's are street legal and very easy to register.

As with anywhere, it is a step away from being in political hell and tied in knotts, like the Coal Industry is in OH, KY and WV.

If what may be happening in TX spreads, I may have to quit fixing up buggy's and selling them, and just keep one.
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[kustoms]

Joe, as you know my move is a lot more than buggies. In fact its about freedoms in general. I cannot believe New York is more welcoming to buggies than Texas. It blows my mind. I have a few calls out waiting to hear back. One of them is to SEMA.
As far as I can tell the bill is from 2009 it is TX HB-3849. I am still going through it but work is getting in the way.
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[didget69]

Joe:

Other states will only follow the lead of Texas/California/etc., IF the hobbyists allow them to do so. Time to join forces with SEMA & other automobile clubs to get rules added to state's DMV/DOT regs in order to allow buggies & other home-built vehicles to be registered. Recall that those in Government positions work for us Citizen taxpayers...

bryan
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[greenmanx]

Being in Texas, this concerns me. I think many of us have just been trying to find out any info before we post.

The only thing I've come up with so far is http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/ and entering dune buggy in the search info for various Congressional session. Thus far, all I've found concerns ATV and Off Highway only use (referring to running on beeches and public land.) Also, each Bill I've run across talks about "registration Fees" for ATV's etc. Also found this http://txdmv.gov/motorists/buying-or-selling-a-vehicle/off-highway-vehicles
I have found nothing specific to dune buggies as we know them nor anything that would effect registration. Tom, I hope your source calls back with good news.
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[greenmanx]

To keep the info post from getting too convoluted, I thought I put this in a new posting.
This is from the TX required Recreational Off Highway Statment of Ownership form. Looking at teh description, they are talking about Rhinos and the like with bench seats. This appears to have been a move to differentiate ATV from UTVs.T
he dune buggies we register are not strictly Off Highway. An off highway use permit for street legal vehicles is available from Texas Park & Wildlife.

Notice in the description below that ROHV's cannot be registered for On Highway Use with or without modifications. I think, the county where RDCll tried to register is confused. However, it sure would be nice to get a definitive on this.

"Recreational Off-Highway Vehicle Form VTR-330 (Rev. 08/10)
Statement of Ownership
Title Requirement: Effective September 1, 2009, a new recreational off-highway vehicle may only be transferred on a
Manufacturer Certificate of Origin (MCO). For more information see "Additional Title Application Instructions" on page 2.
Definition
A Recreational Off-Highway Vehicle is:
-a motor vehicle that is equipped with a non-straddle seat for the use of the rider, and a passenger, depending on the manufacturer design;
-designed to propel itself with four or more tires in contact with the ground;
-designed by the manufacturer for off-highway use; and
-not designed by the manufacturer primarily for farming or lawn care.
Note
-A Recreational Off-Highway Vehicle (ROV) is not designed for highway use and may not be registered, with or
without design alterations, for operation on public highways.
-The certificate of title will reflect an "Off-Highway Use Only" remark.
-Most Utility Type Vehicles, other than an All-Terrain Vehicle, are considered ROVs."

Here's a link to the actual form (loads pretty slow)
http://ftp.txdmv.gov/pub/txdot-info/static/VTR-330.pdf
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[kustoms]

I spoke to Texas DMV main office. They were very specific and adamant in saying fiberglass dune buggies will no longer be registered. They knew exactly what they are. They cited the law but was not able to provide the bill number as of yet.
Believe me; I will be on top of this one as it will have a direct impact on my future. I will keep everyone informed as I get new info.
I have a great working relationship with the state of New York special construction vehicle division. I am hoping I can build the same system in the state of Texas. Just so long as we can work through this issue. Otherwise I will need to pick another state. AZ and FL are the other two states in the mix.
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[pafree]

kustoms, let me know who i need to send e-mails and phone calls too. i want to build some vw trikes to resale but if i can't register them then that could be out. my research has found that i can register a "one in my lifetime" custom build.

[Letterman7]

Sent an email to SAN (SEMA Action Network) with a link to this thread. If anyone can find the bill number, that would help.

Tom... Texas, huh? My brother lived outside of Dallas for years and complained of the heat, scorpions and fire ants. Come on down to PA... lots of space here for ya! Here's one more reason not to move there: http://www.semasan.com/page.asp?content=aa_2013TX2&g=SEMAGA

[kustoms]

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[didget69]

North Carolina would welcome a New York transplant... we seem to have taken in quite a few of since the Nineties, when IBM bugged out of NY. We are pretty friendly to small businesses -

And - did I mention - we still like our firearms? Which is part of the reason why my buggy budget ran a bit low, as my tools from Mr. Ruger's Company have been requiring their workouts.

We have nice beaches & mountains - and Moon Pies & RC Cola/Cheerwine!

bryan
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