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sammyman Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 195
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Wait for a 90-91 Weekender - Or settle for an 85-89 |
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Hey guys. I've been looking for the right weekender. I really want a 90-91 model. From what I understand the only differences are the better upholstery, and two removable seats vs one permanent seat.
Are there any other differences in weekenders? Should I go with a clean 85-89 if I can't find the right 90-91? Or should I hold out and find the right 90-91? |
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tiicosyncro Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Never settle, always go with your first choice |
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malibu Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2011 Posts: 116 Location: Horse Heaven, WA
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I like the 85 better, storage under the seat. With two jump seats you need to take one out for a cooler anyway.
With a newer one you do have better wiring and a 2.1 though. _________________ 85 westy weekender - 2.5 suby
85 full westy - 2.2 suby - Sold |
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whynotvw Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2004 Posts: 1322
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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malibu wrote: |
I like the 85 better, storage under the seat. With two jump seats you need to take one out for a cooler anyway.
With a newer one you do have better wiring and a 2.1 though. |
I have 87 weekender with one seat. I love the storage space under that one seat. I have two trojan t-105 6 volt batteries under the seat and still have a lot of space left. And behind the jump seat I have my solar controller, Iota charger, and a/c inverter all tucked and hidden but easy to reach behind the driver seat.
I much prefer the one seat as Malibu mentioned. |
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Nachtfalter Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 139 Location: Surf Beach California
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:11 am Post subject: |
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All the years (1984-91) are cool, all are old cars at this point, and all the years have slow motors. Buy the nicest one you can find/afford. I wanted a weekender but ended up with a full westy only because it came up first. I wish I had the extra space of a weekender and wasnt dragging that silly kitchen everywhere I go, but oh well. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Wait for the Multivan, they are one of my favorites and have all the factory goodies stock. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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beteljuze Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2002 Posts: 180 Location: lindenhurst,NY
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I, too was looking for a newer weekender, ending up buying an 87 with the stationary seat behind the driver. What everyone else said is true-I love the extra storage space under that seat. Plus my dogs love it. When I open the driver's window, my dog will jump up on that seat behind me and stick his head out the window.
As was said, buy the best Van you can buy no matter what year. You'll totally be happy with it. |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:25 am Post subject: |
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djkeev wrote: |
insyncro wrote: |
Wait for the Multivan, they are one of my favorites and have all the factory goodies stock. |
He's not questioning Multivan ("weekender") vs full camper, he's questioning if the earlier models are as desireable as a 90/91 and why?
I personally wouldn't want the newer jump seat set up on a Multivan. The older storage box is just too nice to have.
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I know, I say get a Multi over the Weekender.
The later vans have better electronics, wiring and refinements, IMHO.
Plus far better color choices, not a fan of the tan interiors, sorry. |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: |
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What Mr. Insyncro means is to wait for the later one cause they come loaded.
My ONLY dislike of the earlier ones is the interior color.
I like the boring light grey color.
The side cladding is a who cares.
Mechanicals are not worth mentioning.
I like the earlier jump seat box but the seat size is so so.
I am hacking up another seat to make a storage box set up.
My passenger side jump seat is never used and I keep a fridge in that spot.
Both early and late are just fine.
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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insyncro Banned
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Loaded with a 4 speed in Orly Blue is how I like'm
Only found in 90 & 91. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Weekender is kind of a catchall term. It pretty much means anything that is less than a full camper. It can be a hard top with a Camper interior, or a pop top without a camper interior. The OP need to better describe what he really wants. |
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1971BugGuy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Storage under the rear-facing jump seat wins my vote. I don't know what I'd do without it in my '86 Weekender. Surprisingly holds a lot of stuff.
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sammyman Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 195
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Wildthings wrote: |
Weekender is kind of a catchall term. It pretty much means anything that is less than a full camper. It can be a hard top with a Camper interior, or a pop top without a camper interior. The OP need to better describe what he really wants. |
That's not what I understand at all. I'm talking about the 90-91 Multivan and that everyone describes as a "weekender", which has a pop top and no kitchen and rear facing seats with a table. 85-87 were the same sans removable seats and having one fixed seat with storage instead. |
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whynotvw Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:27 am Post subject: |
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As a option you can always install the older one seat in a newer Multivan.
Plus when I lay down I use the jump seat to lay my feet. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7916 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:36 am Post subject: |
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djkeev wrote: |
Is not the "Weekender" in actuality a Multivan? |
Based on Volkswagen's Vanagon nomenclature, yes.
Wildthings wrote: |
Weekender is kind of a catchall term. It pretty much means anything that is less than a full camper. It can be a hard top with a Camper interior, or a pop top without a camper interior. The OP need to better describe what he really wants. |
"Weekender" was never an official name given to a Vanagon model. "Weekender" has come to be a common term, however, used for any Vanagon tin-top with the original "Weekender package" equipment, or a Vanagon pop-top without the kitchen.
If I were looking, I'd probably get a '90-'91 and convert the driver's side seat to a storage version and keep the passenger side as a flip-down/removable seat. The early and late versions have benefits and drawbacks... best to combine 'em into perfection (IMHO)! _________________ ~Kamz
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lloydy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: |
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mines what you all class as a weekender, it's '92 reg but build date is '90
it did come with two fold up lift out jump seats, i removed the one by the table and fitted what you class as the earlier storage seat with the same colour/material. Did you not get this seat in the US?
i very rarely use the jump seat by the sliding door, i use the space for my kitchen pod
couple of pics
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Think of a Multivan as a Carat with a pop top and a few cabinets.
Same suspension as the Carat.
The earlier Weekender vans were taller, usually did not have any of the fiberglass effects and came in all the earthy colors.
A Syncro Weekend came in one year only for USDM.
The ultimate layout for me with conversions has been to combine a Syncro, Carat, add a poptop, H6 power and update the wheels, suspension and brakes.
Lighter than a full Syncro Westy, more interior room, rear facing seats that easily pull out and of course all of the factory power features.
Once you know what it is you want...build it. |
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