Rear drum stuck on spindle...what to do now??

ekimthemad · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:39 am Post subject:

You need heat from an acetylene torch. You can't work on cars living in Ohio without one.

Mike
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Jürgen · Samba Member Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 100

The deflection problem is definitely real. A good point. A puller that attaches to the lug holes will eventually work.

A new drum is $50-150, depending on quality. Compare that to the cost of a pulling tool that attaches to the lug holes.

I'd invest in the tool. You can resell it when you're done using it.

Plus, there's nothing quite as satisfying as the CRACK your drum will make when you pull it free.

Harleyelf · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:19 am Post subject:

If you are certain that grinding is the way to go, it may be faster to begin with the hub rather than bisecting the entire drum. Whatever is binding is going to be where the axle splines meet the drum splines. When you get the hub ground down to where you can see their meeting place, it may lift right off.

Of course, even that much heat is going to ruin the axle and you will have to replace it. Now we're done trying to save parts and looking to reduce time spent replacing them.

carcrazed · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject:

I am looking for a set of torches now. Of all the tools I have, I never bought a set, but now I am go nna get one. I don't have much to lose now than to heat that up hot and see what happens. The drum is pretty much junk now and I am sure the shaft is gonna be unusable.
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61SNRF · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject:

May I please ask, is this on the '61 with 33,000 miles?
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jzjames · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject:

Dr OnHolliday · Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject:

Are drums cast steel or cast iron? Oxy-acet won't cut ci....
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carcrazed · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:16 am Post subject:

Yes...this is the 61 with 33,000 miles. Still no luck. I haven't brought myself to cut it off. I keep soaking with PB and puller on the lugs. Hasn't budged at all!! Heat didn't do it either. I have never seen something so stubborn in all my years restoring cars. Gotta love the eastern U.S. for rust!
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1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles

"Just When you think you are getting ahead, you're always wrong."

drscope · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:18 am Post subject:

Do you have air tools? If so you may want to try this.

Take about a 1/4" drill bit and on the flat surface of the drum around the axle drill 4 small divits spaced out at 90 degree intervals.

Then get your air hammer out and use a blunt pointed bit. The divits are there to help keep the point of the bit in place while you hammer on it.

Go around to each of the divits a few times and give each one a couple seconds of hammering.

Hopefully the vibration will help it come unstuck.
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carcrazed · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:00 pm Post subject:

I will definatelyl try that...I don't have much more choices now.
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1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles

"Just When you think you are getting ahead, you're always wrong."

carcrazed · Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:24 am Post subject:

Just an update. I tried EVERYTHING and it wouldn't move. I cut that sucker in half and, sure enough, the drum looked like it was part of the shaft. Absolutely no signs of any splines, just looked like one piece of metal. Gotta hate Northeast weather!!

Anyone got a swing axle shaft for sale??
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1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles

"Just When you think you are getting ahead, you're always wrong."

kirkpwomack · Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:33 am Post subject:

LOL! That thing sounds like it sat in the surf zone... Shocked

Harleyelf · Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject:

Hehe. That's the ferric oxidation method of welding.

carcrazed · Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject:

I have never dealt with any parts that stubborn in all my years of restoring cars. Very frustrating. Thank god I have an air oiled shop 5 miles from my house. Hopefully he will have a swing axle shaft laying around
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1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles

"Just When you think you are getting ahead, you're always wrong."


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