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toddb_67 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2003 Posts: 1313 Location: Hansville, WA
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Hard to tell from the photos but it does look like it was a sport Ghia. The only remaining part though is the steering wheel. Does it have the sport wheels? Where is the car located? How bad is the rust? Any body damage?
Unfortunately, since it has been painted and the sport stripes are gone it might not be worth much more than a typical Ghia in that shape. So depending on the location I would think it would be worth $2-4000k from what can be seen in the pictures. _________________ 1970 Pastel White Westfalia
1971 Super Beetle Convertible (sold) http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=582365&highlight=
1970 Squareback "Savanna" (sold)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=714683
1974 Karmann Ghia- current project, 1967cc engine. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=775207
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aimfabrication Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2023 Posts: 1 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Hello, I’ve stumbled across a KG that I believe to be a sport. I’ll attach photos. Body is rough but runs and drives so nice. What would be a fair asking price? I bought it to cut the roof off but if it’s a rare one I hate to do that to this one.
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JAL78 Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2017 Posts: 127 Location: Novato, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Thanks for listing your original73 Sport Ghia. Finally a Sport Ghia is up for sale! This should be interesting to see what the interest is. Most people are unaware of the rarity of these. _________________ 1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6956 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Hello Everyone! We currently have this very nice survivor 1973 Sport Ghia available. It's already accounted for on this list as well. Thanks!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2609173 _________________ Please check us out on Instagram at @holygrailgarage
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JAL78 Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2017 Posts: 127 Location: Novato, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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A photo of the dealer window stickers is in kingkarmann's post above: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9800640#9800640 _________________ 1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
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VWGlassee Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2012 Posts: 78 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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JAL78 wrote: |
I bought my Saturn Yellow convertible Sport Ghia from the original owner and they claimed that it is truly a Sport Ghia. They did not not have the original dealer window sticker to confirm its authenticity. The only documentation that I have is on the Birth Certificate that I had purchased from"Classic Volkswagen Parts" in Germany. It indicated that my car was equipped from the factory with the "Sport rims" code #M976 which to my knowledge was never offered as an accessory on standard production type Karmann Ghia's. |
How does the dealer sticker look like? I’ve seen it being mentioned a couple of times on this topic but I didn’t saw a photo of it.
Anybody has it? |
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JAL78 Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2017 Posts: 127 Location: Novato, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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I bought my Saturn Yellow convertible Sport Ghia from the original owner and they claimed that it is truly a Sport Ghia. They did not not have the original dealer window sticker to confirm its authenticity. The only documentation that I have is on the Birth Certificate that I had purchased from"Classic Volkswagen Parts" in Germany. It indicated that my car was equipped from the factory with the "Sport rims" code #M976 which to my knowledge was never offered as an accessory on standard production type Karmann Ghia's. _________________ 1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
1974 Thing |
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JAL78 Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2017 Posts: 127 Location: Novato, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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VWGlassee wrote: |
How about this one? I think it also looks cool in orange
It has the striping, the US bumpers and steeringwheel. So its an original orange sport ghia?
https://www.aircooledclassics.be/kg8
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Very interesting! This is a first, Orange Sport Edition? If it was a 73 Sport it would also have the sport rims. I noticed that the spare tire rim is not a Sport rim. Original owner could confirm its authenticity with original dealer window sticker. _________________ 1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
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VWGlassee Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2012 Posts: 78 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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How about this one? I think it also looks cool in orange
It has the striping, the US bumpers and steeringwheel. So its an original orange sport ghia?
https://www.aircooledclassics.be/kg8
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chicagovw Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 1419 Location: Chicago IL/CHandler AZ
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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BigBill, You probably had a Beetle with some Forumla Vee accessories. I don't think VW offered those wheels that early. Perhaps they were from a Porsche 914? I am not sure as to the first year Porsche offered them, but they were on many 914s. I think the price you recall is a bit on the low side for a new car...a base Beetle was about $1800 by then and in 1970 they were still selling as many as they could get in the USA, so probably not much discounting! |
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kingkarmann Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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I just re-read this thread.
Someone posted up an original Sport Ghia window sticker.
Based on the option package listed I would say it was most likely done at the factory.
In my experience in auto manufacturing "special editions were done in groups of a certain number each day until the total production number was satisfied.
It would be very interesting to know exactly how many were made it total.
I don't believe the VIN can tell you much without the birth certificate.
Does a 1500 sound plausible? Purely a guess.
Decided to try a google search and found another copy of a window sticker
1973 convertible delivered to California.
Both VIN#'s begin with 143262----
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Big Bill Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 1782 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Interesting thread I never knew VW offered a Sport Ghia. My wife and I were married in 1970, well we needed a car for her and decided on a beetle and bought a new one off of a local dealers show room floor. I cant remember if it was a 70 or a 71 but it had the rims like the Sport Ghias, a double pinstripe along the bottom of the doors with a VW logo in the stripe itself, a different shift lever that I had never seen before and a wood type steering wheel, and a different exhaust that didnt have the two peashooters. Sadly no pictures of this car, I have often wondered if it was done by the dealer or Factory. I have never seen another like it, it was under $1300 out the door |
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SportGhia Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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I'm pretty sure sport ghia wheels were 4 1/2 inches wide (to fit a spare?)
while the sport bug wheels were 5 1/2 inches wide.
cheers,
dan _________________ 73 Ghia Sport edition
85 SVO Mustang
89 SHO Taurus
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c21darrel Samba Member
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JAL78 Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2017 Posts: 127 Location: Novato, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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I just purchased a 1973 Ghia sport Convertible. The seller was the original owner and stated that the car is a true Sport Edition Ghia. The car has all of the features of a Sport Ghia such as: Saturn yellow paint, exterior black decal stripes, Sport wheels, Indy steering wheel. However the seller did not have any verifying documents to prove its Sport Ghia authenticity such as the original dealer window sticker. I ordered a VW "birth Certificate" for the car and just received it. The cars birth date was 3/30/1973 which is within the time frame when these were allegedly manufactured. The VIN is 1432620501 which is also within the production of these. The certificate "special configuration" indicate that the car was ordinally equipped with: D21 (cannot be identified??), M002 (sealed beam headlamps,, M261(addition right rear view mirror) and M976- 5 sport rims, 4 1/2x15. Does any member or Ghia expert know if the Sport wheels were offered as an option on NON SPORT GHIA'S also? If not then I assume that this is legitimate proof that this Ghia is indeed a true Sport Ghia. If so, any ideas to prove its authenticity? _________________ 1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
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rnoyes Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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Would you be able to tell me if this vin. is a sport Karmann Ghia? 1432620355 the car is yellow and has a sport steering wheel and sport wheels but I want to make sure before I purchase it. Thanks |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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farnhamassoc Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Research on Sport Ghia (Special edition from 1973) |
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anyone else think this is a sports edition car
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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