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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3540 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: Sealant between cylinder shims? |
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If you need to use two (2) cylinder shims to reach the correct deck height do you use sealant between the shims?
Found tons of data on shims and deck height, but nothing covering this.
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MURZI Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 5063 Location: Madisonville, La
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ultra gray permatex _________________ 62 vert
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Tim’s welded heads
45 Dells
A1 sidewinder
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4338 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I use Curil T. The problem with two shims is that if you don't use sealant between the layers, they'll fall off when you're assembling. They only really need some on the shim that's going to bump against the case.
Maybe you could tape the shims to the cylinder to avoid using sealant between the layers. Just a thought... _________________ "A petrol engine can start readily, run smoothly and give every appearance of being in good order, without necessarily being in good tune." - Colin Campbell, "The Sportscar Engine" |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3540 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: |
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So a little to hold the shims together, sealant between the shims and case, but no sealant between shim and cylinder |
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SRP1 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 4340
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Put a light skim coat between the shims, and on the cylinder itself. Put your sealing bead on the shim that seats to the case |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I use a hole tube of sillysnot.... no just a slight amount on the cylinder then the shims& it should be good to go, Ive never used curlyt on any thing so I dont have a clue as to how well it works, I have used, silyconeultra,yamahabond2,haylomar&518.none of witched leeked, but the 518 is a bitch to clean off.I only use it on cases, and may stop using it there I think it is too thick and dosent squish out enough, but on the other hand it is locktight so it wont let the case move around&fret.so i might just keep usig it.but it's a bitch to get off. |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3540 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies...I'm planning on using 518.
And yes I know it's a pain to remove, had to split my case once during the build because I got in a hurry. Its a nice product and goes on much better than ultra black, 3M, etc... |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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the trick to the ultra black/grey/orange is to use the nozzle that comes with it and slice it so it has about a .060" hole at an angle then it comes out just right, where you want it to(within reason of your abilitys,if you piss on your feet everyday you may have an issue with you aim...or you may be real popular wit the ladys that like farm aminals).I do like the ultra,it's easy&cleans up easy when dissambled.(for cylinders&exgaskets/joints only) |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2379 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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mark tucker wrote: |
the trick to the ultra black/grey/orange is to use the nozzle that comes with it and slice it so it has about a .060" hole at an angle then it comes out just right, where you want it to(within reason of your abilitys,if you piss on your feet everyday you may have an issue with you aim...or you may be real popular wit the ladys that like farm aminals).I do like the ultra,it's easy&cleans up easy when dissambled.(for cylinders&exgaskets/joints only) |
How do you clean your ultra permatex off parts? I have a hard time cleaning the orange stuff off. _________________ Parts for sale https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=APPLEGREENVW
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t0ne321 Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2006 Posts: 119 Location: San Diego, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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any kind of Ketone will rip that stuff off in a hurry (Acetone or MEK). Only problem is it will quickly evaporate if it's too hot out. _________________ my 1965 sedan > yo mama. |
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SRP1 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 4340
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Soak in a little gasoline overnight, RTV is gone.
Wire wheel works well too. |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2379 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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