Kombi Owners: Interior Panels

[borninabus]

actual Kombi bus: partial headliner, primered cargo area, commercial hubcaps...etc.
not a "deluxe" transporter that most of us (in the US) are familiar with.

i am looking for some resources for my dad's 69 Kombi.
he is in process of making interior masonite panels for the cargo/passenger area and we have nothing to go by on the diriver's side.
our main questions are: how many pieces was the driver side panel and could we use "deluxe" panels for patterns?
i've been through the gallery and most of the lit here on the site with no luck

any kombi owners out there that can provide some assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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[webwalker]

I think you'll find a zoom in on the RH side of this brochure to answer most of it:

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[borninabus]

good start webwalker.
thank you

unfortunately i haven't been able to find any rear facing views of that side (preferably with the seats removed) and there-in lye most of the questions.

i can plainly see that the panels in those photos are installed differently than one another.
the one on the top clearly shows "button head" type door clip fasteners, while the bottom one has nothing visible.
it seems that as usual VW literature will raise more questions than answers

i know there's got to some kombi owners around here...
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[skills@eurocarsplus]

thats crazy...no headliner and they just blow grey paint on the guts. a small panel to hide the hinge assembly....can you say base model
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[busdaddy]

Just remembered this one: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538150
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[borninabus]

[borninabus]

here is what i'm looking for:
obviously ours does not have a door on that side
and this one appears to have a full headliner.

but again, looking through all the photos of that bus i can see that some of the rear hatch area panels are held on w/ button-heads & some are not.
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[jakokombi]

As well as I can remember, my 70' had a one piece panel with stainless screws.
I'll look through the garage tonight and see if I still have it, and verify.
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[borninabus]

[Desertbusman]

Pete, it's a fair possibility that the side panels are the same configuration as early Bay Westy birch panels. 3 on the driver side. Does the Kombi have the spare inside, with the floor hole and the mounting bracket on the wall like in the owners manuals?

As far as how the panels are secured if they originally had button clips then there would be the larger holes in the body structure. Or the little screw holes if sheet metal screws were used. If like a Westy it would be small screws on all the side panels and button clips on the slider and rear hatch. I doubt a Kombi would have chrome buttons but rather painted ones.
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[notchboy]

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[busdaddy]

From what I'm seeing in that brochure M502 is like the rear hardboard panels in a doublecab, attached with chrome buttons on the side panels and likely screws or pop rivets on the area behind the C pillar (DC's don't have stuff back there). The upper stuff in the back in a panel is pop riveted and the lower stuff is screwed, betcha the Kombi M502 is similar.

Love that blue seat BTW

Here's a splitty:

And a doublecab:

I'm going to go dig out the early parts book and see what it has about it.

Edit:, Where's that bus Notchboy and why is it body color inside?
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[notchboy]

Its up here in Seattle and the closest Ive seen to a Kombi in the flesh. Maybe they painted later models inside and out. It has a BA6 as well so not a normal hack.
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[jakokombi]

Well I guess I got rid of that busted up panel, but those pics that Notchboy found are just like it. Gray painted Masonite with those stainless screws and stamped washers.
The rear panel (on tailgate) had button fasteners. They may have been the same primer color as the interior, however I don't see a single non-chrome one in my bag of used fasteners, and I doubt that I would have thrown them away. It took me 15 years to toss that busted up and rotted Masonite.
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[busdaddy]

Well now that's very interesting, I wonder when the exact date was they ditched the beige paint in the interior? That got me wondering so I did a little search, here's ManicMike's 79 and it's got that strip to tuck the side panel up into that the early in the brochure pic clearly does not:

And supposedly not beige in 78 either (from 78Riviera's thread)

But 77 was beige (Nerd04's), looks to have the panel channel too:

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[borninabus]

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[roland]

I'm fairly certain my 68 kombi had 3 panels for the long side, just like a deluxe. I'll dig up some pics ASAP..
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[roland]

there you go:

IMG_3115 by tfabs, on Flickr

IMG_3113 by tfabs, on Flickr

IMG_3112 by tfabs, on Flickr

fixed by flat head screws with conical washers. Don't know if there was ever a couple of panels on the sides above the engine though. Don't think so...
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[borninabus]

Plenty zoomed in and what I see is the interior of two different 68-69 Kombi's.
Or was blue seat 68 only? IDK...
What I do know is the top photo shows large fasteners of some kind and the bottom photo does not.
The bus in question--my dad's--has no recepticals for large fasteners along that side and a long channel @ the top that runs the length of the passenger/cargo/rear deck area.
Jason's late kombi shows Phillips head/escutcheons holding the side panel and pop-rivets holding the bulkhead panels.
The bulkhead panels are present and riveted in on our bus as well.

So could we be in concurrence that the side panel (on all but the first bay kombi's) was held in Westy style, w/ screws?
Still don't know how many pieces the panel was either...although I can almost imagine a seam behind the middle seat in the bottom photo

Thanks Kombi fans!
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