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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snort wrote:
It seems like there should be some sort of Standard Beetle collection of information somewhere easy to find




http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444733


Ive already linked this thread so others can find this info as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I have seen several Canadian Custom spec Beetles. There seems to have been a lot of confusion over the specifications. I have never seen a 36hp unit in a Canadian spec car after 1960. Yes I know they had them in Europe, but in Canada? With regards to the slotted wheels, I don't remember seeing a 1966 Canadian spec car (Custom or otherwise) without them. Many people like the earlier design better and swap them out. Wheels of this era were date coded (both types). For the poster wondering about them, why not take a peek at the codes and see if the time frame matches when the car was built? Again these comments only pertain to Canadian spec cars, not standard models built for the European markets or elsewhere... Something else to consider. For the Canadian and American market, visible model year changes were more important than the rest of the world. VW made a big deal about those slotted wheels at the time as being an "improvement" over the older versions. That is why I am reluctant to believe that the earlier wheels were original equipment on the Canadian Custom model. The dealer brochure earlier in this post has been retouched and the pictures are not accurate to reality. As mentioned earlier, all Canadian spec cars had bumpers with the over-riders, just like US cars.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1966 Canadian 1200 Custom. First year for the 1200 40hp. The literature calls it 41. something hp. Most likely cause is the higher compression. My 65 with it's 36hp engine has 7.2 compression too, mayby the factory should have called it 37.5 hp.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:15 am    Post subject: '68 Canadian Standard 1200 40HP Reply with quote

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Here's some shots of my Zenith Blue (not Diamond Blue, as it is an early '68..) Canadian Beetle Standard Coupe. Note the plain steering wheel, lack of hood fresh air system vents or any trim / badge on hood, rubber textured half carpets, full coverage headliner, 40HP 1200, no trim on running boards, plain dash with radio delete and only 2 knobs, blocked - off top of daash vents, webasto heater (long ago inoperative) mounted above transmission, and plain black window trim. I'm the second owner and the P.O. is still my neighbor.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice car! Are your front turn signal housings chrome or body color??
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

The housings are chrome. Though it is a low mileage car (60ish) it looks nicer in photos....

Have since replaced the nose cone (was too crushed and badly repaired to fix) and am now going through the rear engine area for pockets of rust. Even the front beam was rotten. Fortunately the heater channels and pan were pretty good. Will be nice painted in Zenith blue again. Right now it wears Diamond blue from the early eighties. A crap job done by Rudy and Peters back then...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paoloventuri wrote:
Thanks!

The housings are chrome. Though it is a low mileage car (60ish) it looks nicer in photos....

Have since replaced the nose cone (was too crushed and badly repaired to fix) and am now going through the rear engine area for pockets of rust. Even the front beam was rotten. Fortunately the heater channels and pan were pretty good. Will be nice painted in Zenith blue again. Right now it wears Diamond blue from the early eighties. A crap job done by Rudy and Peters back then...


Can you take a couple of pictures of your headliner?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all I have right now, but it is completely normal for a '68 I believe....



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paoloventuri wrote:
This is all I have right now, but it is completely normal for a '68 I believe....



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Thank you, that was enough for me to see.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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paoloventuri wrote:
This is all I have right now, but it is completely normal for a '68 I believe....



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Thank you, that was enough for me to see.
Does your VIN type begin with 111 or 113
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Helfen, the Model / Series number is 1110.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paoloventuri wrote:
Hi Helfen, the Model / Series number is 1110.


That is interesting to me, because at least until 1965 Canadian Customs and European standards, "A" sedans (1965) and 1200"A" (1966 ) only come with a 3/34 headliner
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, my Canadian '68 is certainly different from the Euro 68 1200 Standard Models:

http://www.kaeferblog.com/sparsame-klassiker-vw-kafer-1200-sparkafer

Mine has the Deluxe bumpers and normal front fenders, and 68 style tail lights. It also has a covered dash-pad, but no brightwork on the running boards or front hood. Full size door armrests too.

Bertha the original owner said she went to Clarkdale Motors in November, 1967, and asked for their "cheapest 1968 Beetle". She had wanted the '67 model, but was told she was too late and would have to choose from the 1968 range.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: my 67 canadian standard Reply with quote

finally got some pics of my bug. enjoy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I'm looking for quality photo or video of VW beetle 1964 canadian standard 111 color RED

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

Here is a 1964 Canadian 1200 custom that is in the 1966 standard what was original thread;

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

I'm surprised I didn't chime in here earlier. I've had a half dozen or so Canadian customs over the last 35 years, mostly 59 but a few 58s and a 65. The 65 was the most interesting one, I wish I had pictures. It had a 56 to 59 steering wheel, no fuel gauge, 40 hp engine, small headliner and no chrome trim on the exterior. When I got it, it was in first paint which was Bahama blue. It was one of the worst cars I ever owned, I don't know why but bad Karma maybe? I was constantly working on it, unlike the '59s I've had which have been dead reliable.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

Here's a set of original seat covers off a 1960 Canadian bug, either Arctic or Indigo blue. The vinyl is different as it is smooth not heat pleated like a 1960 US market bug would of been. I've not seen this mentioned anywhere here on thesamba but I have noticed a few other Canadian cars that still sport their smooth vinyl seat covers. Not sure if this was a 60 only thing or what the deal is but I'd love to know.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: US spec versus Canadian spec Bugs? Reply with quote

thought I would post this link to my thread about a 40hp with a 12v flywheel on it that looks factory:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9085871#9085871


did the 67 and 68 canadian standards have a 12v bell housing and a 12v flywheel on the 40 hp?

trying to solve this mystery!

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