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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: I made some 40 stainless retaining plate shims. Have a look. Reply with quote

I might have missed it, but do these fit the 71-72 or 73-79? Is there a difference. Are these still available? Thanks Rick
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I made some 40 stainless retaining plate shims. Have a look. Reply with quote

At the request of several members, more retaining plates have been made.

I can't recall all of the members that requested them, otherwise I would have PM'd you directly. This might come across as a shameless plug, but that's not really my style. Mods feel free to nuke this if it's sketchy. No worries.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1995576

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...as far as heat shields go......as one mentioned....having space between the panels is key.
In that respect....the fiberglass or rock wool (which is also excellent for this use) http://www.energyauditingblog.com/what-is-mineral-wool-rock-wool/
...is a good heat barrier and also a sound deadener because all of the little spaces inside the wool or fiberglass matting are zillions of little spaces where sound can bounce around until energy is spent (sound trap).

In that same vein.....getting something that creates both a spacer between the upper and lower parts of the shield....which helps to block heat....and arrests sound....can be done almost as well with expanded metal grid/sheet like this

https://www.google.com/search?q=galvanized+expande...B800%3B600

Another method that is used on many catalytic converter heat shields and downpipe manifold heat shields is to dimple one surface...top or bottom.....in a geometric pattern and and use a handful of those dimples...with a hole drilled through the sheet...as spot weld locations. The dimpled areas acct as heat reflectors as well and subdivides the inside area into zones.

This makes a superbly rigid triangulated construction that actually allows the use of thinner, lighter sheet on one side...is much more rigid than just two flat sheets welded together at the edges.....and in many cases allows actually leaving the outer perimeter edges open so that heat can flow through or out of the edges. It actually makes for a much better heat shield because its more difficult to saturate with heat all the way through because it has a method of dumping heat.

This is a product that works by this exact concept
http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Brand/...ield-4-Ply

Something to think about. Ray
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: A new direction Reply with quote

ChipWrecked wrote:
most importantly - it's super sparkly shiny. Razz


that is the most important part! if it's anything like the shims, you will make yet another quality product!
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Material for the heat exchangers where discussed in this thread.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7460708#7460708

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing as long as there is a space between the two sheets life is good. So anything that can withstand the heat and not react with the stainless would be a good choice.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: A new direction Reply with quote

A few packs of shims remain... If anyone is interested.

Now I'm threadjacking my own thread...

I'm having a new need, and in turn possibly a new product.
I was able to procure a NOS heat shield for my 72'. It's so off-the-shelf perfect that I'm reluctant to use it on my planned daily driver. So, instead of bolting it up, I took caliper measurements to make a few in stainless steel.

316L stainless in 0.030" (22g) for the body, and 18g for the hangers. The benefit of this type of SS is it's lower thermal conductance, high resistance to oxidation and chemicals (road salt), and most importantly - it's super sparkly shiny. Razz

Now, the originals were internally lined with woven chrysotile, just like our late bay heat exchangers.

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Since asbestos liner is out of the equation, I am leaning towards woven fiberglass blanket (like header wrap). The glass will be sandwiched b/w two SS sheets like the NOS design. I'll spot weld the hangers and then crimp the edges - which should be much better than the cheesy aftermarket ones that are out there. I am also tempted to replicate the bead roll that the OEM has. This adds rigidity I presume to keep the shield from flexing? But is it really necessary? The aftermarket ones lack this from what I can see.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't used mine yet, but skills is right these things are purty! I'd be down to buy another set of need be! Also thanks from me as well, love buying quality, much appreciated!👍👌🍻
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bought me a set!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChipWrecked wrote:
Thank you for the kind review. I'm glad they're meeting the need.


thank you for making them. I hope you didn't have a bunch of people flake out on you
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the kind review. I'm glad they're meeting the need.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They MUST be good! Cool



they are better than good. not only are they so pretty you want to put them in plain view and THEY WORK and fit perfectly .

I am glad to have had the opportunity to purchase a set. it's nice that he was able to offer them at such a good price.

as I said, I will but more if he had anyone flake out on him and he has a pile laying around.

I just wanted to get everyone's attention Very Happy I seem to be pretty good at that
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got my shim set today. what a joke.


I saw that post take a drastically different direction in my head. They MUST be good! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my shim set today. what a joke.

he should have charged more. these are like jewelry for brake pads and it's almost criminal that you will never see them.

I'm still gonna polish them anyway Very Happy

they fit perfectly. dude, you rock! they would still be a bargain at twice the price.

thanks for all your effort. hopefully the people that ordered them will feel the same.

I hope you didn't have too many folks flake out on you. if you did, let me know and I will see how many more sets I need, then see how many I feel like hoarding

killer work, and much appreciated!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did my brakes again... without shims. Money sent. Thanks for making these!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Folks,
This afternoon I received a new batch of shims. I know there are a few of you interested in a full set - so I just updated my old classified ad - and relisted them there. Even though production costs went up a little, I relisted at the same price as before.

I ask though, that due to this limited run, that you keep the order to one set for now. Make sure they meet your needs. Plus it lets a few others get a set.
If, at the end of the month some orders remained unclaimed, I'll PM those that requested more, and I'll eat the shipping.

Thanks folks.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the last set of the first run. They fit perfect. Shine like a new nickel. Made the angle locator from cardboard. (Low tec)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep you can mark me down for 2 sets. Let me know and I'll send payment as soon as they are ready. Awesome when someone make a quality version that is better than the original part that is hard to get. Keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: shims Reply with quote

I'll take a set.
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