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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Dan, Is this the unit?

https://smile.amazon.com/Keelin-TK419-4G-LTE-Real-...amp;sr=8-1
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

dgbeatty wrote:

BTW what frequency bands do you need for your travels? This a short and sweet list. is.gd/6DF9o0 . Note that they are different from the US if I am reading it correctly.


My iphone on Verizon has worked in every country I have been in Europe. I have no idea what the frequency issue is though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Legacy Verizon was CDMA ONLY which didn’t work in EU

No longer an issue since iPhone 5 on up.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
Legacy Verizon was CDMA ONLY which didn’t work in EU

No longer an issue since iPhone 5 on up.


Got it.

I need a tracker that works on GSM, not CDMA only, if I am using it in Europe.

I believe the model I posted above is CDMA only... D'oh!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

dgbeatty wrote:
A Amazon link is. is.gd/tME7Cj. This a link to the manufacturer. is.gd/vbiRUY. .


Dan,

Can you post full links for the product you ordered? I cannot get anything from the partial links.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

OK. I've been doing more digging on the new version TK419.

I found this supplier. Looks like a direct link to China.

https://www.eelinktracker.com/sos-button-4g-lte-gps-tracker.html

I have emailed with them about the specs for the unit since there seems to be some info lacking on websites. Here is the reply.


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Based on this I ordered 2 units. One for my '87 westy and the other for the euro bus.

$115.00 for 2 units (includes shipping).

I think this one will work for my needs. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Do these sim cards notify you via text or whatever that your rig is being touched, moved? Or is it an after the fact, means of allowing you to track(locate) your rig?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

cmayna wrote:
Do these sim cards notify you via text or whatever that your rig is being touched, moved? Or is it an after the fact, means of allowing you to track(locate) your rig?


You'd need to read the specs for the actual unit you have in mind.

Many of them do have a motion sensor alert and almost all have a geofence option.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
OK.
$115.00 for 2 units (includes shipping).

I think this one will work for my needs. Very Happy


Let us know the shipping time! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

After reading the link you provided,,,,aha! Something I might consider using for my old chebbie truck.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Taking a look at #54 right now.

https://landairsea.com/collections/real-time


Read the Amazon reviews of it...half seemed to be canned reviews about cheating spouse etc., etc.

https://www.amazon.com/LandAirSea-Waterproof-Magne...amp;sr=8-4
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

I expect to receive a tk419 on 23th Nov, paid a bit extra for faster shipping.
Currently I have a tk103 (2G GSM only) installed. It is configured with fuel pump disconnect and starter inhibitor. Both of those features are failsafe in that if the the tk103 is disconnected normal operation is restored. Both are enabled if the van is outside the virtual fence location and the speed exceeds 10mph. They work in conjunction with an inexpensive Crimestopper alarm.
Because our van has been stolen once already, and recovered three weeks later, I am
a bit paranoid and also have a Spot Trace installed. Both are powered by the starting and house batteries via largqqish diodes and a small 4ah LFP battery. Overkill, maybe? I am a belt and suspenders man.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
I'm not associated with this in any way other than seeing the post on a Vanagon fb page...

Here's a new tracking product built by a Vanagon owner. 4G, gps tracker, remote kill switch via cell service (if I read it correctly)...


Thank you JIm. I promise I will not be annoying on this thread with a bunch of advertisements, but I have just released Van Tracker, a remote automatic kill switch + tracker + movement detector specifically designed for Vanagon.

The website is www.thevantracker.com and video playlist is below. The 2nd video is a little dense but covers everything VT can do. The 3rd and 4th videos are demos and are probably easier to digest
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8jriUZHZDEcFTrur6iq2xOjVX0ak21vv

The documentation is here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13ItrZjGPKgeY-Gc1PMHvNRRPHOHLlwqB?usp=sharing

And a whole thread on it is here (to avoid hijacking this thread):
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746338

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

I think it is awesome you developed this product. ^^^^

I wish you success!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Just wanted to post my experience with finding a solution for this problem.

I previously had a Spot Trace and wasn’t very impressed with the interface or the increase in fees. So I cancelled that while the van was stored during the winter and hunted for another option. The satellite option was previously the best in my opinion bc of going to remote areas that might not have cell reception, but then figured the chances of whoever stole the van not going somewhere where there’s cell reception was unlikely.

Thought about something like bouncie that plugs into the OBD plug on our 2.5L Subaru conversion but that didn’t seem great either.

Then I came across the idea of using an old mobile phone with google maps location sharing. All I needed was a cheap data plan. Then the stars aligned and I learned that T-Mobile does these add a free line promos every once in a while and as luck would have it they ran one at the beginning of this year. So now that I’ve confirmed it’s legit and works I rigged an old smart phone in a hidden place in the van powered by a fuse tap into the auxiliary battery. And it’s working like a charm.

So if you have 1. T mobile 2. An old smart phone and 3. An auxiliary battery setup you’ve got a free tracking system.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

^^^^ Awesome!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

jonathan.jung wrote:

So if you have 1. T mobile 2. An old smart phone and 3. An auxiliary battery setup you’ve got a free tracking system.


Honestly it's not a bad setup. I've wanted to use an old phone as a free dashcam, and what I found was there are several apps for exactly that.

You should try to find an app that will do geofencing and send you a text message or some other notification in the event that someone steals the van. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an app like that out there. Proactive > reactive.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

I’m wondering how well the new Apple Airtags would work. If I understand correctly if they come near an iPhone the location can be tracked. Granted, not everyone has an iPhone but there are plenty around. For $29 it might be worth a little experimentation.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Yellow Rabbit wrote:
I’m wondering how well the new Apple Airtags would work. If I understand correctly if they come near an iPhone the location can be tracked. Granted, not everyone has an iPhone but there are plenty around. For $29 it might be worth a little experimentation.


Check out these but hit or miss on hiw many people have them to make a working network.

https://xyfindit.com/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: GPS locator to find a stolen Vanagon Reply with quote

Steve M. wrote:
Check out these but hit or miss on hiw many people have them to make a working network.

https://xyfindit.com/


The user base of Apple seems to make these devices more promising than smaller competitors.
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