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Jens-Ole Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Beyond Reason (Norway)
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: Bosch 010 and cylinder 1? |
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Hi guys..
I have installed a 010 in my 2109 engine, switched from a chinese "009" with no retard on cylinder 2.
If the 010 has the retard on cylinder 3 i would suspect that the rotor need to be in the correct position at all the cylinders.
So the question is, where is the rotor pointing when cylinder 1 fires? |
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mxracer Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2011 Posts: 568 Location: NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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At (or about depending on timing) the small scribe line in the distributor body.
Like the one at the 4 o'clock position in this pic (courtesy of Glenn Ring)
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76949 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Does the Bosch 010 and 019 have the #3 cylinder retard? |
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Jens-Ole Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Beyond Reason (Norway)
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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hmm, i'll see if I can find it. I didn't see the marking the other day. This is by the way an old gem from a 1962 harvester aicooled harvester with only 8 hours on the clock |
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HRVW Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 2531 Location: Rosarito, Mexico
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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That mark/notch will mean diddly as a point for #1.
The dist drive gear has 12 teeth (ea being 30 degrees) so there are that many possible points for #1.
Change from a Vac dist to a mechanical and the timing will change 90 degrees to the left or right...depending on which change is being made.
The crank pully at TDC will have the rotor at #1 or #3 PERIOD.
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Matthew Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 1760 Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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HRVW wrote: |
That mark/notch will mean diddly as a point for #1.
The dist drive gear has 12 teeth (ea being 30 degrees) so there are that many possible points for #1.
Change from a Vac dist to a mechanical and the timing will change 90 degrees to the left or right...depending on which change is being made.
The crank pully at TDC will have the rotor at #1 or #3 PERIOD.
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The mark means diddly if you orient the body incorrectly. Yes, it will run with the distributor body in any orientation, but the "correct" position is cylinder #1 TDC rotor pointing to the notch in the housing. Of course the distributor drive has to be installed by the book in order for this to look correct. _________________ 1965 Beetle sedan
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Jens-Ole Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Beyond Reason (Norway)
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Right, that means I have to pull out the distributor drive an get it almost 180 degrees around... bugger |
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OLD VW NUT Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2011 Posts: 2776 Location: High Desert of Washington 98823
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:24 am Post subject: |
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There is a tool made just for pulling the dist drive.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Distributor-Drive-Puller-T...mp;vxp=mtr
I had one years ago. I think I used it a couple of times to correct rookie (customer) mistakes. As with all tools if you don't use them they seem to vaporize over time. _________________ 71 Ghia Coupe - stock body - no rust! Powered by a 2110 W/Dual HPMX 44's - Rancho Pro Street Transaxle - A/C by Gilmore
Other car - 2013 VW Golf TDI |
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Jens-Ole Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Beyond Reason (Norway)
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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We've got one at work, I just seem un-remember it more or less every day |
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SBD Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2012 Posts: 3269 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jens-Ole wrote: |
We've got one at work, I just seem un-remember it more or less every day |
I always had good luck using a pencil. |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Jens-Ole wrote: |
Right, that means I have to pull out the distributor drive an get it almost 180 degrees around... bugger |
Or just flip the drive tang on the bottom of the distributor the other way around. |
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Jens-Ole Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 74 Location: Beyond Reason (Norway)
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Was looking at The distributor today, and it actually needs to go 90 degrees counter clockwise. But could someone tell med how the bloody special tool works? |
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